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hello everyone and welcome to the show

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i'm martin willis your host i there was

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sorry about that be patient um i'm

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really excited about my guest tonight i

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had uh dr michael masters on a while ago

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on my anniversary show

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and i mentioned that i didn't think

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there were a lot of young people getting

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into this and that was this topic that

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is and that's because that's what i was

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seeing when i was going to conferences

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and he said oh you're totally wrong

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about that

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are some young people that are really

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taking this topic seriously

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um they know how to use this thing

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called the internet which uh us older

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folk uh are not quite so good at and

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social media the right way and

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and uh search engine optimization all

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that stuff so

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i'm really excited to have christina

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gomez on um she is a gen z and she'll be

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coming on in just a minute our blog this

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week is a ufo occupant in wheeling west

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virginia

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uh this is about the

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the uh

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braxton county the flatwoods monster a

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very strange occurrence

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um and i don't really ever know if they

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know exactly what that was but

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so that from charles lear as usual

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welcome i mean thank you so much charles

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for all the work you do

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and again welcome everyone and we are

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bringing in christina right now welcome

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to the show christina hello thank you

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for having me i'm so excited yeah thank

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you very much i know you you have a show

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tonight right you do your show

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it starts when this one ends right

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so we'll have to steer people to that

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put a link in um after this this show's

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done but but thank you very much for

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being willing to come on and you've done

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quite a bit in a short time but first of

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all before we get started i want to know

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what got you fascinated in this topic to

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well i think as someone that has

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a very very loving father he was the one

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that got me interested in the topic

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and he was a huge twilight zone fan i

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think

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obviously by now my favorite tv show of

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all time but for those that don't know

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it's a very old

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1950s early 1960s tv show still in black

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and white and it covers topics all

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things that are strange and mysterious

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and especially during that time where it

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was very taboo to talk about

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this show in particular it never really

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gave you

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a definitive answer on to what was going

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on and the show always ended and

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it always ended in a way that was very

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open that you had so many more questions

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like what actually happened or what

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could happen next so because of that

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particular tv show i became so

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interested in the topic but also into

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starting to ask questions and

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for those that um remember being very

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young or for those that have children

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you might know that when they hit the

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age of like five or six they start

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asking why but they ask why all the time

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mommy ami why is the sky blue

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daddy daddy why can't fish uh breathe

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when they're out of the water and things

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of this nature and i think we need to

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constantly have that curiosity we need

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to constantly ask those questions

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even though they might be asked so many

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times if you don't hear the answer go

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ahead and ask that question regardless

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of how many times it's been asked you

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need to go ahead and find those answers

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for yourself and

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with that kind of passion

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moved far away from home to go and study

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in university and i had a lot of time in

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my hands but you know i'm i'm no one

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special i'm just a young person with a

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lot of questions and enthusiasm to find

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the truth and i decided to do something

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constructive with it which led me to my

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youtube channel which is why i'm here

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today yeah excellent well you know i say

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the same thing i'm no one special either

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you know i had a sighting i had a

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curiosity and i think um you know i saw

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that you interviewed avi loeb

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and one of his things that he says is

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about the questions have have questions

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like a child he says that um and that's

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how science you know moves forward to

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have these questions and curiosity and

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and that's true and i'm not sure if

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we'll ever find out what that's going on

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but there's certainly a lot of of

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questions and i remember talking to my

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friend dean out in

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california um

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and he said maybe it's we gotta find out

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what is the right question to ask

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paw what makes clouds stay up

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so so you're uh gen z a question i

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you know who zz top is right you know i

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know the name but i'm not familiar with

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his music i thought so yeah

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but i think the generation before mine

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but please in the live chat um yeah yeah

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google it we can't google it oh see and

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that's that's the interesting thing in

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today's world is uh now children they

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don't ask their parents questions

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anymore now they ask alexa they ask

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google they ask they ask their friends i

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have one in the room so we got to be

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you're right i mean you know and it's

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the same thing i you know i as a joke i

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our smartphones are making us dumber

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how to spell you don't have to learn how

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to add i know i'm sounding like an old

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geezer but um it's true like we have all

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everything so optimal that we don't

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really need to think all that much

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about certain things you know like like

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adding or or um or trying to research

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at library have you heard of you've

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heard of libraries right yeah i grew up

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right but that's what the only place i

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could get my information that and um you

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as having all the tools available to

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really advance ourselves towards

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becoming a type one civilization on the

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kardashev scale so and you know what i

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reality 40 years ago

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all of the wealth of knowledge at our

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fingertips the history of our

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civilization um to to the discoveries

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the science the journals the shared

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collective human experience all in one

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place but what do we do with the

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internet instead we squabble we let our

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egos run amok and compete for social

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standing we obsess over entertainment

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and so-called icons and celebrities and

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could all be very well educated if we

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wow um i like that stump you're on

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because uh i i personally i i get kind

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of discouraged with social media myself

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and so i just do it as bare bones and

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and i'm on it for you know like to

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promote the show or

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uh you know that that type of thing or

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to connect to people

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like guests and things like that a lot

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do that type of thing but as far as like

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you know i have people that contact me

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and there's you know this person against

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this faction against that faction and

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you know lou wells on those

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disinformation and you know on and on

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some hate mail that's okay you

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know we have certain opinions

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and uh but anyway um

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you know if we can handle

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to move forward instead of backward

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you know in the future uh which way we

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go with our our technology i had um i've

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talked about this a number of times i

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astrophysicist that was a visiting nasa

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on my show and he said that his

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colleagues

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any civilization that can get through

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the bottleneck of technology without

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blowing themselves up will travel the

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so i think it's true it's a bottleneck

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of technology

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you know we're seeing that right now

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it is and he's he's not wrong and though

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the way i see it if we don't destroy

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ourselves as a species

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then our future will inevitably lead us

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humans placing foot in our solar system

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and then beyond to other star systems

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but the question is how far away is that

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in our future

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development maybe a long time

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but if we're being visited by other

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space-faring species and open full

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contact uh is coming

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maybe in my lifetime we could be there

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in space and the biggest thing is having

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that curiosity that imagination but also

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having the basic knowledge

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on how to use the internet and the best

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way

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to share the information

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that we acquire this is why we have

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these ufo podcasts these youtube

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channels so on and so forth we have to

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fill in those gaps into where the

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mainstream media falls short and i i

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think we're

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we're doing so much

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for our civilization as a whole by

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talking about this amazing and

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mysterious phenomenon

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yes yeah and it's and it's changed so

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much one of the questions i was going to

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ask you tonight was

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did you happen to catch when the 2017

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new york times article came out december

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16 when that came out the pentagon is

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studying ufos and that uh

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aurora's i forget what it was called

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um

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but did you happen to catch that or or

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start hearing about it you know what

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made you feel more comfortable in and

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looking into this topic

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so in when this article came out i was

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still in high school i was just 17 years

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old so i wasn't very interested in like

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reading the new york times and being

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involved in politics and and being

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incredibly serious about the topic and i

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see you laughing but um it's true it

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really is true so i didn't get very

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serious about it until until college and

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i had a lot to catch up on starting from

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2017 and then making my way through to

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all the more modern knowledge but then

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also the history of all the ufo

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sightings all these bits and pieces the

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the science aspect the abductions and so

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on and so forth so when 20 when this

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article hit in 2017 i was oblivious to

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it i didn't even know it existed because

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it wasn't it wasn't the talk in school

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right in in high school for you that

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have kids or for those that are

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listening um they talk about really

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boring things and ufos is usually never

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a topic unless it's related to maybe a

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tv show or a new movie that came out but

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other than that the actual uh politics

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to it i guess in this sense no i i

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didn't know anything about it at the

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time

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i was only laughing because i thought

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you were so much better off not

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not

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anyway here's a here's a question that

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popped up

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oh um lee spiegel just put in it's

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glowing oh

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i'll just pull up his text the title to

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it

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is and thank you lee

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is

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and black money yeah a lot i think there

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was one more but anyway here's a message

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and thank you for putting that in caps

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if you have a question you want me to

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ask put in caps so what do you think

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the generational procession perceptions

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affect the phenomenon i don't know

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exactly what he means do you understand

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that question um to my understanding i

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think he means how does my how does my

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generation the perspectives affect the

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phenomenon in the sense of um for

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firm okay

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my mini backtrack so

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how i see my generation

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handling the subject it's kind of like

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they shrug their shoulders like this

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yeah i already know that but they don't

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understand the history and the the

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amount of effort that is being placed

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into it you know um we grew up with the

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internet we grew up with a phone in our

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cell phones as suit a phone in our hands

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as soon as we left the womb all right we

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were like i'm ready i'm already addicted

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so for for us getting that information

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isn't difficult it's not even a question

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it's like yeah obviously but when it

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comes to you know project blue book when

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it comes to that article in 2017 when it

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comes to the the push for a uap

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office the preliminary report

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these are things that aren't necessarily

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considered or even i guess in some

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respects classified as important for

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some of people in my generation

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just because it might be a little bit

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too

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complex because there isn't really any

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foundation to build on and with my

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channel specifically shifting the

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paradigm paradigm shifts and mysteries

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with the history it's all about building

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that foundation for those that don't

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know anything about the topic either

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from my generation or for any age that

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is just now jumping in

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really after

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last year when the mainstream media was

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really placing serious coverage on the

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topic leading up to the uap preliminary

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report in june

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and i think that was a really big

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eye-opener for a lot of people in

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general to start asking questions like

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what the government what are they doing

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what's going on we're gonna be getting

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reports every six months what like what

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i want to know more about this and

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there are a lot of ufo podcasts and i

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think that when i was first starting i

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would try to listen in but they were so

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advanced at the time talking about

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topics that i didn't even understand or

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stories that they would kind of touch on

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and then like jump to another thing and

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i'm thinking hold on what's roswell what

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happened yeah and and so for me

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my biggest

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purpose

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is one to learn with my audience because

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i i am learning every single day i

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didn't i didn't wake up one day knowing

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everything

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i don't think that'll ever happen

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but

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helping others just to have a solid

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foundation to to build on from there or

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they can start reading articles they can

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start reading the political the new york

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times when they talk about the ufo

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phenomenon they can go to someone else's

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podcast and like get what they're saying

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versus going in blind and saying

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uh i've i have no idea what's going on

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i i agree with that and i do apologize

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to

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show and i apologize because i'm guilty

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of jumping right into a topic that i

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assume everyone knows about i've done

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that a number of times and my friend

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alejandro rojas

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and i i'm not sure if you know him he's

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been a little bit quiet last year or so

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but he and i've had many conversations

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where

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okay so it's roswell but we got to give

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the nutshell because there's new people

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listening and they'll go away if they

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don't understand and that's that's

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really that's really the truth

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it's a catch-22 because you have

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listeners that have been in the field

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for decades like oh roswell again click

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off but then you have new people that

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are brand new and they're saying what's

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roswell i want to know so it's it's it's

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this balance that you have to play with

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but i think you know

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everyone every person that has their own

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show or podcast or

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um

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news article know knows who their

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audience are and then

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from there it can kind of gauge

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what they need to do and how they need

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to approach it but in my case i'm just

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dealing with brand new people that don't

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know much about the topic just like how

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i was when i first started

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so how do you how do you rope them in

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what what is the the catch that gets

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them

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like i'm going to

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check out this youtube channel or or

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for myself what

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i

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tell you the truth the whole truth and

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nothing but the truth um yeah i i can't

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say that because i am learning every

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single day and my audience

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i i try to say that as often as i can

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because i don't want people want to

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place me in a high pedestal thinking

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christina gomez notices everything oh my

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goodness i need to ask her i need her i

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need her to write a book or something

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which i i am writing one but um that's

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besides the point but it's it's

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it's really just telling people i have a

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lot of questions

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i want answers and let's go through this

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together

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that's it and do you use you must use

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like social media to

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get people

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i mean that is a really good tool

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to to get people your own age i mean

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everyone's on social media of some kind

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and

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i i've heard of instagram

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i don't know what it is i've never been

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on it you know that type of thing so a

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dinosaur yeah the dinosaurs were we were

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kind of trying to get into this in ways

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that we can

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yes

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well with social media and um i just

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want to say i'm noticing people are

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saying that there's an echo in the live

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stream so maybe i'm coming through too

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loud on your speakers um

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so let me kind of like back up unless

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unless you have headphones maybe that

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can like

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block the echo how's that that should be

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better thank you for those in the chat

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sorry about that yeah yeah i couldn't

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hear it on this side so uh yeah i moved

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my mic closer to me that should do it

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perfect

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so when it comes to social media

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it's

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of worms in itself and um for those that

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don't know much about it it can be

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incredibly overwhelming when there are

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so many platforms you have twitter you

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have facebook you have instagram you

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have pinterest you have all these other

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video streaming

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channels as well like uh platforms like

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twitch and vimeo and and all of these

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things

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at linkedin

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so it's a lot it is a lot but i feel

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like

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once you have your basic formula once

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you have a nice framework

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going and just posting write your show

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everywhere it becomes a little bit

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easier and a little bit less stressful

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along with every platform also has their

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like foundation uh

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formula as well in the sense of some

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social media platforms like hashtags

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some don't depends on how many you do

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this side and the other how like the

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word requirement you need like for for

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youtube being a certain word requirement

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so with all of it it requires a good

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amount of research but once you have

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your foundation down it becomes a lot

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easier now when you're dealing with like

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private messages or like comments then

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yeah it it can be that part i think is

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the most overwhelming blasting out the

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show is easy

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it's i think i think it's the little

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details a little paying attention to

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details that are the most difficult but

560
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:08,960
as long as for those that are listening

561
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,440
that want to start their own podcast for

562
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,200
whatever whatever

563
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:14,960
niche that may be

564
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,200
just put yourself out there put yourself

565
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,600
on every single social media that you

566
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:21,679
can and then go from there because if

567
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:23,840
you just do one platform like let's just

568
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,840
say

569
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:27,760
facebook yeah you might do well but you

570
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,320
won't do great

571
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:32,799
right right just uh i don't know why i

572
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,159
thought of this now but i want to

573
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:36,000
announce it is next

574
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:38,320
wednesday a week from tomorrow on the

575
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:39,440
19th

576
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:43,120
at 11 p.m eastern time 8 p.m

577
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:45,280
um pacific time i have two people from

578
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,559
the west coast

579
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,320
that are i'm going to be on the

580
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,320
everything else show this another show i

581
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:52,480
do on this youtube channel where it's

582
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,799
topics that i'm interested in

583
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:56,720
my listeners may not be interested in

584
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,960
them at all but this one in particular

585
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,200
is on climate change

586
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,679
professor rebecca newman

587
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,280
she's a

588
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:07,200
mit

589
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,360
phd and she

590
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:10,880
is um

591
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:13,600
really involved in climate so is uh

592
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:16,400
megan colleen um with her master's

593
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:19,120
degree um and also we're gonna be

594
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,039
talking about the climate change and um

595
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:25,360
the science of it and the interesting

596
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,960
things that maybe um we don't know

597
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:31,039
and i'm taking questions for that that's

598
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,159
the reason i'm putting that out there

599
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:34,400
now so if anyone wants to email me

600
00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:35,760
questions for them

601
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,240
my email address is martin at podcast

602
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:40,159
ufo.com

603
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:43,760
so where were we um

604
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:44,559
so

605
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:45,840
i want to know

606
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,799
what

607
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,880
your very first video when you did

608
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:50,960
analysis

609
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,039
did you have a youtube channel already

610
00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:55,360
established and you said okay i'm going

611
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:56,799
to put this up i'm going to go through

612
00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,039
this video i'm going to enhance it

613
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,440
how did that all happen

614
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,480
for for me i kind of wanted to

615
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:07,200
ease in to the to the whole youtube

616
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:08,720
thing and i originally used to make

617
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,600
music

618
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,919
so i used a program called acid pro and

619
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:13,760
i would just kind of make music that i

620
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:17,200
liked or or even kind of like asmr sleep

621
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,159
music because i don't sleep very well so

622
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:21,919
i wanted to create something that i

623
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:24,240
could go ahead and really enjoy and

624
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:25,520
sleep to

625
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:28,559
but as time progressed

626
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,159
i wanted to

627
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,720
well i also experienced with with music

628
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,559
and space ambient music as well and that

629
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:36,159
was a lot of fun now i don't have time

630
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,000
for that and i wish i did

631
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:40,799
but as as time progressed and i was

632
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:43,279
getting interested in the topic i wasn't

633
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,000
prepared to just kind of like jump in

634
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,320
completely blind and being like talking

635
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,000
to people that i didn't even know what

636
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,360
to talk about so i started with doing

637
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,760
ufo analysis videos where i would

638
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:58,000
collect um

639
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,520
collect videos from youtube from mufon

640
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:03,760
and other platforms and go ahead and

641
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,640
zoom it in stabilize it add filters if

642
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,799
it needed it and then place it on

643
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:10,880
youtube and allow people to decipher for

644
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:13,440
themselves what they considered these

645
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:16,720
ufos to be because as we know ufos mean

646
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:19,840
unidentified flying object that's all it

647
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,000
means right but so when someone sees

648
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:23,840
something in the sky

649
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,159
maybe it could be a drone but simply

650
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:28,640
because i don't know what it is to them

651
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:32,000
it is classified as a ufo

652
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,760
and i feel like

653
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,080
when you zoom in attempt to stabilize

654
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,799
and do the things that i did it could

655
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:40,960
have been easier for some people to kind

656
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,679
of

657
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,640
see if it did look man-made or didn't if

658
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,120
it did look maybe controlled by ai

659
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:49,120
intelligence or not things of this

660
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:52,159
nature and from there i was like okay

661
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:53,039
i'm feeling a little bit more

662
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,400
comfortable

663
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,880
with this topic i'm doing my research

664
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,640
behind the scenes

665
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,400
to to really because i really want to

666
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,760
start getting involved i really want to

667
00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:03,840
start having this conversation with my

668
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,799
peers in in college and with with those

669
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,159
on the streets

670
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,400
doesn't matter but whenever i would

671
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:13,200
bring up this topic in school

672
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:14,320
they would just kind of look at me and

673
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,840
they're like really you really want to

674
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,440
do this right here right now well let me

675
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,520
have a few drinks first and then maybe

676
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:22,000
we can talk about the ufo topic and i'm

677
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,840
thinking no i i want to talk about this

678
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:25,919
right here right now i i want to do this

679
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:29,200
completely with the proper mindset but

680
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,880
people weren't on that bandwagon at the

681
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,840
time

682
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,840
so from there i decided okay you know

683
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:35,520
what i'm gonna i'm gonna really start

684
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,720
talking to people and try to get my

685
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:40,960
questions answered to the best of their

686
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:43,600
ability whoever i speak to and then it

687
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,400
slowly evolved to shifting the paradigm

688
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:48,320
where i started interviewing ufo

689
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,039
researchers and enthusiasts my very

690
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,360
first guest was alien girl one one one

691
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,600
amy and um

692
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,760
she because of her we're here we're here

693
00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:59,600
today but

694
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:01,919
it it was hard i i think when you're

695
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:04,320
podcasting or when you're talking to

696
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,880
anyone right especially on camera it's

697
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,080
not easy

698
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,240
i don't think anyone's just born to do

699
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,640
it and you're like amazing

700
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,559
there are

701
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,279
as as one of my friends has told me

702
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:19,200
who's been in the podcasting world for

703
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,399
quite a few years

704
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:22,880
he says your last show is always going

705
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,799
to be your worst your next show is

706
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,720
always going to be your best because

707
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:28,640
you're constantly evolving and you're

708
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:31,840
constantly as time progresses feeling

709
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:34,799
more comfortable with your thoughts your

710
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,240
opinions and how to go ahead and present

711
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,320
yourself to people that

712
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:42,640
want to know more about what you're

713
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,840
researching

714
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,279
and

715
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:47,520
that's that's really how it all started

716
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:49,840
and then it evolved to another show

717
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,240
called mysteries with the history

718
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:54,720
where i talk about

719
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,399
all the topics that fall under the

720
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,000
umbrella of the unexplained and the

721
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:00,399
mysterious and with my co-host jimmy

722
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:02,480
church from fade to black and we just

723
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,559
kind of we just kind of talk about

724
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:08,159
each each week is a different it's a

725
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:09,520
different topic

726
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:11,679
last week was um

727
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,200
extra dimensionals and i just feel like

728
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,960
for those that again that are new to the

729
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,480
topic that don't know anything that need

730
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,279
a foundation that's a great place to go

731
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,200
ahead and

732
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:25,360
start from the ground up because we are

733
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,159
hitting every single topic

734
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,960
with the mindset that maybe the people

735
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,480
that are listening don't know anything

736
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,159
about it let's start from the from the

737
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,320
very beginning and then make our way

738
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:38,000
through through all the stories or

739
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:39,520
through the people that have encountered

740
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,080
that have um go ahead and documented

741
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,000
these stories researchers and things of

742
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,000
that nature

743
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,399
yeah well that's that's great um that's

744
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:49,840
great that you're doing that

745
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,799
and i i think it it is you know one of

746
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,880
the things i noticed that you did when

747
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:55,919
you were

748
00:29:02,789 --> 00:28:59,919
analyzing those videos is you also said

749
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,799
um you didn't give an opinion

750
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:04,399
you just kind of well here it is and

751
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:05,520
here it is

752
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:09,120
enhanced and i appreciate that um

753
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,399
because

754
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,679
i think opinions you know you just you

755
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,360
see something visually

756
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:16,880
and you you know that everyone's going

757
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:18,720
to make up their own mind like one of

758
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,799
the videos i saw i thought well that

759
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,960
looked like a white and a black balloon

760
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:23,760
maybe

761
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:26,399
twirling but there was one video you had

762
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,279
i think you caught up the triangle video

763
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,440
south carolina maybe or north carolina

764
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,360
or something like that that looked

765
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:35,039
pretty amazing

766
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:35,919
so

767
00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:41,679
videos as well yes yes i i had people

768
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,279
sending me in videos but i would also go

769
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,440
ahead and try to find them but didn't

770
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,200
really have very good descriptions on

771
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:50,159
youtube or even there have been some

772
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,440
people on youtube specifically where

773
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:56,159
they'll post their ufo sighting and they

774
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,440
don't have any subscribers they don't

775
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:00,080
have any views so it's also bringing

776
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:03,520
those videos to a bigger audience as

777
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,399
well

778
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,640
for again for people to make up their

779
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:09,520
own minds on what they think this topic

780
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:13,440
or or what that video is and with this

781
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:14,640
topic

782
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,720
it is riddled with opinions and bias and

783
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:20,399
and people saying that they have all the

784
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:22,159
answers when that simply might not be

785
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:23,360
the case

786
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:24,480
and

787
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:27,039
with that i didn't want to fall into

788
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:30,799
that mud pit where i i think that

789
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,640
my opinion my bias is not important it

790
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,480
shouldn't it shouldn't affect the data

791
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,240
that i provide to people that are

792
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:40,240
listening i should

793
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,039
provide all of the information that i

794
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:45,679
can get my hands on regardless of if

795
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:48,320
it's a hoax or if it's real and allow

796
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:50,880
people to make up their own assumptions

797
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,240
on the topic the project the experiment

798
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:56,799
whatever it may be because

799
00:31:03,029 --> 00:30:59,120
in all due respect

800
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,039
we do not really have all of the answers

801
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:04,640
we don't really know what's

802
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:07,840
misinformation and what's truth for

803
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:11,120
years for decades there have been people

804
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,600
writing books telling stories that

805
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:16,159
weren't necessarily true you have

806
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,240
richard doty bill moore okay who were

807
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,799
disinformation agents and what their

808
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:24,799
protocol practically was

809
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:27,200
specifically with richard dodie was

810
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,519
we're gonna tell you a certain amount of

811
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,679
truth and a little bit of just a little

812
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,960
bit of uh

813
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,880
fiction and then you can go ahead and

814
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,799
decide what you think is what and then

815
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:39,440
go from there and that that has been the

816
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:41,200
case with this topic

817
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,519
for as long for as long as probably it's

818
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:45,120
been documented

819
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:49,120
so with myself i do not want to place my

820
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,360
opinion or my bias because i could be

821
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,200
wrong i could very well think that

822
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:55,279
something that's true could end up not

823
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:57,679
being true or vice versa

824
00:32:06,950 --> 00:31:59,679
and

825
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:06,960
need to think for themselves what they

826
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,919
believe these things to be

827
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,760
you know uh

828
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,559
you brought up richard doughty and bill

829
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:16,080
moore um

830
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:19,279
and a friend of mine was at the

831
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,240
ufo conference when bill moore came out

832
00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:24,399
and said what he was doing and

833
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,679
and the crowd was pretty upset

834
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:30,399
richard dodie is getting a lot of air

835
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:31,440
time

836
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:34,799
and i think it's kind of a shame um

837
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,279
i did invite him on this show once but i

838
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:39,600
told him i wanted to talk about

839
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,159
paul benowitz paul benowitz case and i

840
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:44,399
said i wanted to be able to have

841
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:45,760
everything on the table i want to be

842
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:47,600
able to talk about everything

843
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:49,039
and he

844
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:52,320
changed his mind about coming on my show

845
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:55,279
the bottom line is he's on all these tv

846
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:57,679
programs now and

847
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:01,360
and um there was on a stephen greer no

848
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:02,320
comment

849
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:05,600
uh movie where he's talking about

850
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:08,240
um actually seeing aliens on an

851
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:09,679
underground bunker or something like

852
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,080
that i was quite shocked that um they

853
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:14,159
would give him the air time

854
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:15,919
so

855
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:17,919
i don't know but that's a good a good

856
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:20,480
point you you said exactly right they

857
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:22,880
put a little truth a little truth mixed

858
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:26,159
in there and then go um with um i mean

859
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,760
look what happened to poor

860
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:29,679
paul benowitz you know i mean

861
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:32,000
basically was driven mad

862
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:33,039
you know

863
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,320
eventually and not all of it was due to

864
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,640
what dodie was doing but it didn't help

865
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:40,399
any at all

866
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,440
so but i'm i think that's really great

867
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:45,600
that you seem to

868
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:47,679
know a little bit about the history so

869
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,480
early on in doing this and one of the

870
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:52,559
things i heard about

871
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:55,840
the um uap task force was they were not

872
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:59,519
going to look at anything prior to 2004

873
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:00,880
and i think that's

874
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:03,360
terrible and their their excuse was that

875
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,480
their um the

876
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,280
let's see what did it say the equipment

877
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:10,960
um the data

878
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,560
was not good before 2004 which is i

879
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,560
think kind of baloney but uh what are

880
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,800
your thoughts on that you know as far as

881
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:20,879
don't you think the history is important

882
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:23,440
to this topic the history is incredibly

883
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:24,800
important and i'm going to share with

884
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:26,960
you my favorite quote of all time and

885
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:29,440
it's actually by micah hanks and he

886
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:30,879
stated

887
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,800
the only threat to the uap phenomenon

888
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,960
is not knowing the history

889
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,240
and i and

890
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:40,560
so yes it is incredibly important to

891
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,000
know as all the documented data

892
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:47,280
that we can get our hands on however

893
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,119
however even though they're not going

894
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,320
before 2003 or four

895
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:54,320
at least they're touching the topic at

896
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,720
least they're doing all of that

897
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,280
all of that time since and

898
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,520
we know that

899
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:02,480
after

900
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,800
covid right during covet people are

901
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:06,560
seeing more ufos

902
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,040
but i wonder

903
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,680
if they are saying that because there

904
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:13,920
are so many smoking guns in the past

905
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:16,320
that they don't want to dig up as well

906
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:19,680
and so it's it makes you question why

907
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,640
why don't they want to hit before that

908
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,079
is there something that they're hiding

909
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:26,000
that they're not ready to tell us

910
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:26,880
but

911
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:30,880
still 2004 and onward there i i think

912
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:32,240
there is still

913
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:35,119
a decent amount of data to cover and to

914
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,240
share with the public again to just open

915
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,720
their minds to the phenomenon and to

916
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:42,720
have them ask their own questions and

917
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:44,480
then from there when they see these

918
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:45,280
little

919
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,800
they're going to

920
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,640
reach out to our podcast they're going

921
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,320
to read all the books and get their

922
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,599
hands on they're going to go to the

923
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,440
library they're going to scroll they're

924
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,160
going to go through the internet and try

925
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,160
to find more answers that they're simply

926
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,640
not being provided by the government so

927
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:04,240
i don't think it's necessarily a bad

928
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:05,200
thing

929
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,800
and the the

930
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:08,560
with that

931
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,920
we are i don't think anytime soon we

932
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,359
will be getting disclosure from the

933
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,280
government the disclosure is going to be

934
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,680
coming from us from keeping putting our

935
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,160
eyes to the skies looking for things

936
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:22,480
that we cannot explain talking to other

937
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:23,920
people that are having the same

938
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,560
questions as us or that might be

939
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:28,960
been been in the field for decades that

940
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,560
might have a little bit more information

941
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:32,240
than we currently do

942
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,520
so

943
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:35,599
we are the disclosure

944
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:37,920
yeah eyes to the sky is mine you know i

945
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:41,200
have that copy written i know

946
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,560
um but no no you're right i think that i

947
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:46,880
don't i don't really foresee there's

948
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:49,440
gonna be disclosure any time soon quote

949
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:52,240
unquote but i i do think there

950
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:54,000
uh i do think we're in some type of

951
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:56,560
forward motion like i've never seen

952
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,880
before um but you know a lot of people

953
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,960
that have been around for decades and

954
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:03,359
decades are saying well we've been here

955
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,480
before

956
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,240
and you know it only leads to

957
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:08,320
disappointment you don't have that type

958
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:09,200
of thing

959
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,640
in some respects but then it makes you

960
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:12,960
question what does disclosure mean what

961
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,200
does it really really mean and i think

962
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,680
everyone has their own

963
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,839
perspective on what disclosure means

964
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,040
some thinks

965
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:23,359
it means the government's going to admit

966
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:26,560
the word aliens that aliens are here and

967
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,240
then you have some that are going to say

968
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:30,240
oh it's going to be a mass sighting then

969
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:31,760
you have some that are going to say well

970
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:34,480
maybe the government is going to

971
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:37,280
place all of their documents

972
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:39,920
and make it on uh declassified and so

973
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:41,680
everyone kind of has their own

974
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,000
understanding of what disclosure means

975
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:46,720
it's a very vague term yet it's it's a

976
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,280
very weighted word as well

977
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:51,520
but i think in the long run regardless

978
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,760
of how you define the word disclosure

979
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,320
the underlining behind it is to know the

980
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:00,800
truth to know the truth are we being

981
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,520
visited or not are they already here

982
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,000
what are they what are they doing

983
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,720
yeah speaking of that do you think

984
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,280
the government knows

985
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,119
any more than we know

986
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,960
that's a good question that's a really

987
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,560
really good question

988
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:18,720
in some respects

989
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,440
i think obviously i want to say yes but

990
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:23,760
in other respects you know

991
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,560
everything is decompartmentalized

992
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:28,800
in the government and the the biggest

993
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,160
thing is

994
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:32,560
i i can suspect someone

995
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:36,240
some somewhere someone knows the answer

996
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:37,119
but

997
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,400
if they would come out with that

998
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:40,960
information i i doubt it

999
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,359
and and now with the government

1000
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:45,200
constantly contracting private

1001
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,320
organizations it seems like maybe

1002
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:50,640
private companies might have more

1003
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:54,079
information than the government does so

1004
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,839
kind of pointing our pitchforks of the

1005
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,320
government saying give us disclosure i

1006
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,800
don't i mean yes we need to constantly

1007
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,880
push for that transparency to the best

1008
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:04,960
of our ability but that doesn't mean

1009
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:07,200
that they'll have all of the answers

1010
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:08,800
that we're looking for

1011
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,520
right uh so this is the question that i

1012
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:14,000
basically just more or less asks thank

1013
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:15,119
you for that

1014
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,150
you're right about the private

1015
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:22,480
you know the private like the the black

1016
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,800
money and the private uh companies and

1017
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,800
things like that i remember i was a i

1018
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:29,119
had chris mellon on my show he was i was

1019
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:31,280
the first one to interview him and by

1020
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,480
the way

1021
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,640
um he may be on

1022
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:36,880
uh gary nolan is definitely coming on

1023
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:40,720
march 15 and chris mellon tentatively is

1024
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:43,520
coming on if he's not um traveling at

1025
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:45,760
that time so that'll be a great show but

1026
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,800
anyway he was saying that is the way

1027
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,400
that you keep it

1028
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,400
you know hidden under lock and key as

1029
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,720
you get it into the private sector and

1030
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:56,560
he said uh because

1031
00:40:01,829 --> 00:39:59,839
if any president along the line

1032
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:01,839
says that they want to know

1033
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:05,200
are there aliens or what are ufos

1034
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,560
that um they have to tell the president

1035
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:10,960
whatever it is that they know

1036
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,119
and the only way to stop that from

1037
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,359
happening is to put it in the private

1038
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:17,359
hand private hands

1039
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,400
and then

1040
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:20,720
it's exempt from that

1041
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,280
so uh i appreciate the questions

1042
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,520
um yes it will be phone in questions

1043
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,160
later on um so if you would like to ask

1044
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,560
our guest a question on chat just put it

1045
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:32,079
in all caps

1046
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,960
and

1047
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,480
we have quite a few there's a lot of

1048
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:37,119
activity in there

1049
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:39,599
well we we know

1050
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,880
while we're on the topic we know ufos

1051
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,680
are real because they are unidentified

1052
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:47,119
is it aliens

1053
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,960
i don't know i want to know and i wonder

1054
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,280
if they've been here for a long time you

1055
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:55,680
know are they deep in the oceans

1056
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:58,880
observing our development i don't

1057
00:41:03,430 --> 00:40:59,760
know

1058
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,440
but when i interviewed ross coldheart he

1059
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:04,640
said that

1060
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:07,520
a private uh contracting company on the

1061
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,560
west coast is monitoring these exact

1062
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:12,880
things and it makes me question

1063
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:15,359
what community is in the ocean

1064
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:18,160
seems like it yes wow it was very vague

1065
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:20,000
the way he said it but to my

1066
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,680
understanding that is what he meant so

1067
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:25,359
what we're getting at is there are

1068
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,319
people

1069
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:28,560
specifically private companies that are

1070
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:31,920
looking into this now when it's private

1071
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,160
we know that the public will not be

1072
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:36,319
getting that information

1073
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:37,200
right

1074
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,839
is this a question okay questions are

1075
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:43,440
kept

1076
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:46,000
um no sorry about that now the

1077
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:47,359
um

1078
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,839
the usos that's another topic all by

1079
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,359
itself it's really

1080
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:53,359
fascinating now i remember your your

1081
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,359
buddy jimmy church

1082
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:57,599
had this thing about the malibu

1083
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,720
um i'm trying to the anomaly off malibu

1084
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,960
and that ended up being a rock formation

1085
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,560
i'm wondering if if that's all

1086
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,160
completely solved has he ever talked

1087
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:08,319
about that when you two were together

1088
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:11,760
not to my knowledge when it comes to uso

1089
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,920
such as i think such a great topic

1090
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:15,599
someone that's very knowledgeable in it

1091
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:18,640
is um preston dennett but

1092
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:21,839
what we understand is that yes they're

1093
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:24,720
unidentified submerged objects but in

1094
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,720
reality they're still trans medium

1095
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,560
objects that can travel through the

1096
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:30,880
water through the air and through space

1097
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,760
so

1098
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:33,680
even though it has its own title as a

1099
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:37,119
uso in in many respects it's still just

1100
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:39,839
a regular kind of ufo because it seems

1101
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:42,560
that a lot of these craft that we see a

1102
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:44,480
great example is a tic tac that it can

1103
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:46,880
travel through air and water in an

1104
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,599
instance with no issues and there have

1105
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,160
been a few um

1106
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:54,240
television shows that kind of ask the

1107
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:56,960
question and we even had some pronoun

1108
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:00,800
researchers in the in the ufo field ask

1109
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:04,880
could they be ai drones but manufactured

1110
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:07,359
by non-human intelligence because if we

1111
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,560
look at tic tacs or or the speed that

1112
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:12,960
they go at the maneuvers that they make

1113
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,319
it would be impossible to our current

1114
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:19,200
understanding as humans it would be

1115
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,319
impossible for anyone to survive in that

1116
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,319
oh yeah so it makes it makes you

1117
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,640
question could they simply be ai drones

1118
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,400
because

1119
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,400
here's a good example

1120
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:32,960
we are right now discovering our solar

1121
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:35,839
system as we speak nasa is constantly

1122
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:37,839
sending drones okay rovers the

1123
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:40,240
perseverance rover just hit mars

1124
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:43,760
obviously people were not sent first

1125
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:47,280
they sent ai technology to go ahead and

1126
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:50,079
sniff out what's going on understand the

1127
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,240
composition of the atmosphere things of

1128
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:54,880
that nature because that is safer

1129
00:44:02,710 --> 00:43:58,880
because that is logical to do before you

1130
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,720
send a living being in what if these

1131
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,400
craft that we're seeing in the sky are

1132
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,400
doing the exact same thing what if they

1133
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,480
are just merely

1134
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:10,880
controlled by

1135
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:13,200
by by entities

1136
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,240
of not of terrestrial origin but that

1137
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:18,800
that they're ai drones with no living

1138
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:21,440
beings inside of them that would just

1139
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,160
simply make sense

1140
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,800
the one thing about in

1141
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,359
in particular about the tic tac though

1142
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:31,760
is that we don't have any technology

1143
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:34,960
that could take that g-force and i not

1144
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,720
not only a a being but but any type of

1145
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:40,240
missile or anything that we've ever

1146
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,359
created

1147
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,800
with that type of g-force would

1148
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:43,839
completely

1149
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,960
um

1150
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,720
shatter fall apart

1151
00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:48,240
not work

1152
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,960
so yeah that's that's that one is a a

1153
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,119
real big mystery so i have a question

1154
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,920
for you how does someone like you that

1155
00:45:03,190 --> 00:44:57,200
is

1156
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,200
how do you avoid going down the rabbit

1157
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,200
hole and

1158
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:08,000
and getting involved in

1159
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,960
say

1160
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:10,160
thinking

1161
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,839
certain ufo unnamed ufo channels

1162
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,800
um

1163
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,560
all their stuff is real

1164
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:19,119
um you know that how do you how did you

1165
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:21,520
keep yourself from going the wrong place

1166
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,200
or did you go i did a little bit in the

1167
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,760
beginning you know and uh but luckily i

1168
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:27,520
had people around that would would help

1169
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:28,240
me

1170
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,520
um so what was that experience like

1171
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:33,599
well what i'm what i'm saying here and

1172
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,079
what i'm suggesting is and things that i

1173
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:38,800
that i muse about often but i'm not

1174
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:41,359
opinionated i just want the answers and

1175
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,480
i do

1176
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,200
go down those rabbit holes i analyze the

1177
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,359
information i look for the facts i look

1178
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,079
for the data that's the biggest thing

1179
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,640
when people tell stories or when people

1180
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:55,440
say well it's written here i go ahead

1181
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:58,319
and i look for that information um for

1182
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:59,920
those for things that have been

1183
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,160
documented because there are a lot of

1184
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:03,839
anecdotal accounts there's a lot of

1185
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:06,319
alleged accounts but if there isn't

1186
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:09,119
anything to back it up it can be a lot

1187
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,960
more difficult to go ahead and agree

1188
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:15,440
with it but i i don't

1189
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:18,160
i don't subscribe belief especially to

1190
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:21,280
anecdotal narratives i have i i stay on

1191
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,599
the fence always i stay balanced to the

1192
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,920
best of my ability but

1193
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,400
you can't avoid jumping into a rabbit

1194
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,640
hole it's impossible

1195
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:32,640
that's right um

1196
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:36,000
hang on just one second here

1197
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,990
um so there's this question here

1198
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,359
are you

1199
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:47,920
maybe yeah okay down a little bit

1200
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:49,760
sorry my my camera's going out of focus

1201
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:52,880
there right there perfect thank you

1202
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:55,760
not ai drones but laser plasma filaments

1203
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,520
projected up to 50 kilometers are you

1204
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,200
familiar with this topic what this

1205
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:03,599
person put in there michael put in there

1206
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,560
um no i'm not i'm not interesting yeah

1207
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,160
thank you for that michael i'm not

1208
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:11,920
really sure about that now what about

1209
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:14,160
this question here that i'll look into

1210
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,599
when it comes to michael i'll look into

1211
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:18,079
that yeah so how do you feel young

1212
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:22,079
people would react to real contact

1213
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:23,440
i think they would just shrug their

1214
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,559
shoulders like cool all right take me to

1215
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:28,960
take me over i'm fine

1216
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,880
that that's honestly how i think it

1217
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,559
would go

1218
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:34,559
and i i would be on the same boat if i

1219
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,760
saw a craft come down i would hijack it

1220
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:39,680
kick the people out the entities out and

1221
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,400
then just travel the galaxy without

1222
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,720
without a sense of like a

1223
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,319
sprinkle of guilt or anything i'd be

1224
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:49,440
like yes this craft is mine but when it

1225
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,880
comes to my generation and open contact

1226
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:54,480
um i don't think it'll be a question i

1227
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,000
think many people

1228
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,240
from my understanding at least i think

1229
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,640
many people are are expecting it

1230
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,640
at some point in time either in their

1231
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:05,599
lifetime or their children's lifetime so

1232
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:08,880
it's it's not really a stretch of any

1233
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:11,680
kind now how would society change as a

1234
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,599
whole that is something that i simply

1235
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,079
cannot answer but as for my generation

1236
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:17,440
just because i have a very similar

1237
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:19,599
mindset as many of them do

1238
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:22,800
it would just be another day

1239
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,359
interesting wow yeah there used to be i

1240
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,280
remember hearing as long as i've been

1241
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,040
looking at this topic

1242
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:31,520
that you know the world would basically

1243
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,640
go into major turmoil all the stock

1244
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:37,200
market would crash the religions would

1245
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:42,079
all have you know traumatic um you know

1246
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:43,680
whatever it is that would ever happen

1247
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:45,280
with them i don't know what people were

1248
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,079
suggesting would happen but um but

1249
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,319
basically society would fall apart i

1250
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:52,160
don't think that's the case anymore and

1251
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,599
i think i think part of it is is we are

1252
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,359
um you know some people call are calling

1253
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,400
this a soft disclosure you know we are

1254
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,119
being acclimated a little bit to the

1255
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,520
possibilities we have so much going on

1256
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:07,920
right now james webb telescope just

1257
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,359
launched recently

1258
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:11,599
we can be uh optimistic about what might

1259
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,400
happen with that um and then you know

1260
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,480
when the kepler went up we started

1261
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:18,480
realizing that there was some

1262
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:21,280
um possibility of earth like you know

1263
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,720
planets out there and so i think i think

1264
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:27,280
we would certainly i don't think it's

1265
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:28,640
going to fall apart

1266
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,960
um i would be i'm very interested to

1267
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,960
know exactly what would happen you know

1268
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:33,920
would it be

1269
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,200
news quickly i hope not because it's

1270
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,280
pretty major in my opinion oh it is but

1271
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:41,280
you know it's it's coming that the kids

1272
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:44,079
are are primed and ready and it makes

1273
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,920
sense that with all the planets being

1274
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:47,920
discovered and all the tv shows movies

1275
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:51,760
etc i i think it would be well accepted

1276
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:55,920
now that's if it was friendly first

1277
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:59,839
contact but if it was something dark and

1278
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:02,000
uh

1279
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,280
bad right like awful afoot then well we

1280
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:07,599
we would come together as a species we

1281
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:08,640
would

1282
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:13,680
finally realize that we are one species

1283
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,640
i would hope so i would hope so i know

1284
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:18,800
uh president ronald reagan used to say

1285
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,119
that many times he said that many times

1286
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:22,960
if we are ever attacked from space we

1287
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,559
would all join together

1288
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,800
um something i'm paraphrasing not sure

1289
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,880
exactly what he said something like that

1290
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,680
so

1291
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:31,920
how do you see the future of this topic

1292
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:34,559
in mainstream academic research

1293
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:37,680
will it gain prestige uh greetings from

1294
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:40,400
signapore thank you i'd like to say your

1295
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:42,079
first name but um

1296
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:43,520
i would butcher it but thank you for

1297
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,349
so when it comes to the

1298
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:52,079
mainstream media and the academic

1299
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,760
research behind it

1300
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,920
i think it will come in time you have

1301
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:58,480
the galileo project run by harvard

1302
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,359
professor avi loeb and i think he is

1303
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:03,920
going to be a great primer to go ahead

1304
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:06,720
and bring more scientists into the

1305
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:09,680
subject and not have this feeling of

1306
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,960
being ridiculed or or feeling ashamed

1307
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:14,400
we know

1308
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,680
that for scientists to go ahead and

1309
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:19,119
conduct

1310
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:26,880
funded and the people that fund you need

1311
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:29,680
to agree with your vision so scientists

1312
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:30,960
are very

1313
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:33,119
cautious on the

1314
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,480
on the uh

1315
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:36,480
the things that they want to research

1316
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,160
because if they don't have the funding

1317
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,839
that can't happen or they could very

1318
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:41,760
well just kind of be pushed aside be

1319
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,240
ridiculed and then never kind of have

1320
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,319
those credentials that they had prior to

1321
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:48,800
go ahead and explaining yes i want to

1322
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:52,000
study aliens like absolutely it can make

1323
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:54,160
it look a little crazy avi loeb has

1324
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,680
taken a great

1325
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,160
aspect to it where he's saying look i

1326
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,119
just want the data the data doesn't lie

1327
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:05,680
that's what i want nothing more nothing

1328
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:07,920
less so with

1329
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:11,119
with him being very public about it

1330
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:14,480
he is going to go ahead and start

1331
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:17,280
more scientists coming through and

1332
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:20,400
searching for extraterrestrial life but

1333
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:22,480
in a more scientific manner than just

1334
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,880
going on um plain faith or just

1335
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:26,559
anecdotal accounts

1336
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,319
so i i think i think when it comes to

1337
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,800
the mainstream media academic research

1338
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:32,960
it will come in time and hopefully

1339
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,599
sooner than later yeah i think you know

1340
00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:36,720
just uh

1341
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:38,559
one person

1342
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:39,280
uh

1343
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:41,839
kevin knuth was on a number of people

1344
00:52:48,309 --> 00:52:44,160
that are involved in the scu

1345
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:48,319
which is the scientific coalition for

1346
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,359
uap studies i believe anyway um

1347
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:53,680
so there these are scientists

1348
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:54,559
that

1349
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,480
started before avilobe but as well as

1350
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:01,280
you know there are many that are getting

1351
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:04,160
involved with avi as well which i with

1352
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,800
that whole galileo look galileo project

1353
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:08,160
i think it's a wonderful step in the

1354
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,440
right direction

1355
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:11,680
and you're right it's really hard to

1356
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:13,680
you know to get the funding

1357
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,000
and uh for people to take take you

1358
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:17,760
serious but a lot more people are taking

1359
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,000
it serious now the reason i brought up

1360
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:22,640
kevin knuth is because he said he wanted

1361
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:24,800
to be in on the ground floor

1362
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:27,680
to the greatest discovery of mankind and

1363
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:30,160
so that's why he's he's putting his neck

1364
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:31,200
out there

1365
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:32,559
all right we're going to go into a three

1366
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:34,079
minute break we'll be right back right

1367
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:45,589
hello and welcome back and i'm not sure

1368
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:47,440
what the heck happened to my camera it

1369
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,400
just

1370
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:50,319
there it is i think

1371
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,680
there it goes

1372
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:54,000
i'm back hey i don't know what that was

1373
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:56,960
about but anyway uh thank you for

1374
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:58,960
uh watching our show tonight listening

1375
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:01,200
to our show we have christina gomez and

1376
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:03,119
i'm gonna bring her right back in hello

1377
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:04,240
hello

1378
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,520
hey there

1379
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:07,920
so um i can't remember the topic we were

1380
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:11,040
on when we were oh i saw a question and

1381
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:12,880
that was uh someone wanted to know if

1382
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:14,640
you had your own ufo sighting have you

1383
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:16,000
ever had one

1384
00:54:18,549 --> 00:54:17,200
i have

1385
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,559
oh dear

1386
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,400
into it

1387
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:22,240
it's it's not one that i've actually

1388
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,400
talked about often it's um when i

1389
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,160
when i think about it i still kind of

1390
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:30,160
clam up so please forgive me if i if i

1391
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:32,240
stutter a little bit here and there but

1392
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:33,680
um

1393
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:37,520
pretty much a few years back i while on

1394
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:40,000
a vacation field trip as was a small

1395
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,799
group of people and we went to um india

1396
00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:44,720
for a few days to go visit some ancient

1397
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,799
ruins and it was it was a very very

1398
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:48,400
private deal it wasn't a commercial

1399
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:50,079
package or anything

1400
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:52,559
and we just had this really spontaneous

1401
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,880
idea to see this one temple in

1402
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,160
particular

1403
00:55:01,589 --> 00:54:58,240
so we're walking through the streets and

1404
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,599
we see this uh sadhu this holy man and

1405
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,559
we said hey you know do you know where

1406
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,200
this this temple is and he says you know

1407
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,119
what i'll take you i'll go ahead and

1408
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,359
i'll take you there and i said yeah okay

1409
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,119
well what can go wrong some stranger

1410
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:15,040
taking us to a random place in a foreign

1411
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,839
land not a problem everything's gonna be

1412
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:18,720
fine

1413
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,240
so um we travel by bus like a few a few

1414
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:24,000
miles and then we walk the rest of the

1415
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:24,960
way

1416
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:28,079
and we get to this to this um

1417
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:31,200
it was a shivan temple

1418
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,280
and

1419
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:35,359
when we got there we kind of roamed

1420
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,640
around and then we kind of just sat

1421
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:38,640
there the rest of the day and the holy

1422
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,079
man the the guru the sadhu said

1423
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,400
um you can go ahead you know lay on the

1424
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:46,400
grass look at the clouds meditate do

1425
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:49,920
whatever you like um and just wait until

1426
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,319
later in the evening so we're like okay

1427
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,400
no problem a lot of the people i was

1428
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:56,640
with started meditating and stuff but i

1429
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,640
kind of just like went ahead and just

1430
00:56:02,069 --> 00:56:00,160
enjoyed looking at the clouds you know

1431
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:02,079
like a child when when you see all these

1432
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:03,280
different figures and you're like well

1433
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,119
that one looks like a dragon eating a

1434
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,359
lollipop and that one looks like so i

1435
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,799
was really enjoying myself because i was

1436
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:10,799
still rather young

1437
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,559
and

1438
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:14,480
as the

1439
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:17,040
it got darker outside right

1440
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:20,319
the um the the holy man said okay for

1441
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,319
those that are meditating go ahead and

1442
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,160
open your eyes and look up in the sky

1443
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,480
okay just look up in the sky and then he

1444
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,520
goes into a very deep meditation at this

1445
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:30,799
time

1446
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,200
when this happens or like okay well this

1447
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:35,359
guy's in the meditation it's not a

1448
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:37,040
all right whatever

1449
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:38,799
and then all of a sudden i hear this

1450
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,319
person next to me oh my god what is that

1451
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:44,160
and we all look up we're like what are

1452
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,240
you what are you looking at what is it

1453
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,000
and um

1454
00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:50,799
we saw these three because rather far

1455
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:53,359
away we saw like these three kind of

1456
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,880
orange yellow glowing worms

1457
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:59,359
and one of them just kept getting bigger

1458
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,720
and bigger and bigger because it was

1459
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:03,359
getting closer to us

1460
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,720
and

1461
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,240
it got it got pretty close that you

1462
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:07,680
could kind of see

1463
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:10,240
in a sense what it looked like and i

1464
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:13,280
don't know if you've seen the carlos

1465
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:15,040
diaz lights

1466
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:16,880
but it was pr

1467
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:19,839
if i had to compare it to something it

1468
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:21,680
would be similar to that like it didn't

1469
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:24,160
look fully nuts and bolts it looked kind

1470
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:27,359
of organic it was glowing in like

1471
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:29,119
orange and yellow and a little bit of

1472
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:30,160
red

1473
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:32,319
and it's it's actually really hard to

1474
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:34,400
explain

1475
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:37,440
but it it just it just wasn't fully

1476
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:40,160
metallic and it wasn't fully organic it

1477
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:42,079
was kind of a mixture

1478
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:43,599
of the two

1479
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,920
and so it's only happened for a few

1480
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:47,920
seconds like this was not a long enough

1481
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:50,240
period of time to pull out your phone

1482
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:53,359
your camera and snap a picture record it

1483
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:55,920
uh for those that i've had that have had

1484
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:58,480
ufo sightings for the first time

1485
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,799
you can't you're just in shock you're

1486
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,630
and and your brain does not even process

1487
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:08,880
to go ahead and take a picture to

1488
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:11,119
estimate the size and be like if i

1489
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,680
compare it to that light stand it has to

1490
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,319
be about 200 meters in length like

1491
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:18,960
obviously these things you do not cross

1492
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,440
your mind you're just in pure shock

1493
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:23,680
because it's something that is not

1494
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,799
explainable from your past experiences

1495
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:28,720
or from anything that you have seen

1496
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,480
prior right so

1497
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,799
your brain is just trying to understand

1498
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:34,960
yeah what the heck am i seeing

1499
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:38,000
so so with

1500
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:39,839
with that

1501
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:42,079
um

1502
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:47,750
it it really activated my interest after

1503
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,119
that but

1504
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,359
what ended up happening

1505
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:53,040
after all of this

1506
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,319
was

1507
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,640
the craft ended up leaving and it went

1508
00:59:02,309 --> 00:58:59,200
with this other two orbs and it just

1509
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:02,319
disappeared really fast and then the

1510
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,160
um sadhu got out of meditation

1511
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:08,240
and um this is kind of where it sounds

1512
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,839
really woowoo right here but he he goes

1513
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:13,920
ahead and and he says and and i'm

1514
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,119
paraphrasing here he practically says

1515
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:19,599
the thing that you saw

1516
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:21,760
it's very similar

1517
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:24,400
um to us you can practically call it

1518
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:27,680
family and at that time

1519
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:29,680
uh we're all like talking amongst

1520
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:30,960
ourselves we're like what the heck did

1521
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:33,200
we just see like what's going on

1522
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,240
but we also had promised the whole group

1523
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:38,079
had promised that we wouldn't really

1524
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,599
talk about it um just because it's it's

1525
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,440
as you can tell you're like

1526
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:45,280
what is this girl saying it's it's so

1527
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:48,319
difficult to explain and no matter

1528
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,359
no matter how well i explain it um

1529
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:53,040
you wouldn't get it unless you were

1530
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:54,960
there so it's not something that i talk

1531
00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:57,440
about often because it's it's very

1532
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,920
difficult to do so but that wasn't the

1533
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:01,680
reason to why i started my youtube

1534
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,799
channel in all reality it was a memory

1535
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:06,640
that i kind of suppressed and i put in

1536
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:08,720
the back of my mind that i didn't really

1537
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:10,000
consider

1538
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:12,559
the years following up to

1539
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:16,240
talking about this publicly but as

1540
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,640
as the channel started and things of and

1541
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,640
and i started talking to more people

1542
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,720
that's when that memory began to arise

1543
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,040
once again and i'm like oh yeah

1544
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:27,119
i did have that sighting oh my gosh that

1545
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:29,359
was really profound

1546
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:30,319
but

1547
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:31,520
it

1548
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:37,280
interest afterwards

1549
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:39,440
after i had already started the channel

1550
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,640
and overall it really opened my mind to

1551
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:45,040
all the possibilities of what it could

1552
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:46,799
have been and what it could not be at

1553
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:49,680
the same time just because looking at

1554
01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:52,640
the carlos diaz lights the only story so

1555
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,760
far that i have found being similar

1556
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:57,599
it could also

1557
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,680
it also led me to look at so many other

1558
01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:01,359
cases to go ahead and find something

1559
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:03,920
that was similar to what i had seen

1560
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:06,319
yeah how about that now i'm going to ask

1561
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:11,040
you this what if that guy was right

1562
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,720
have you ever thought what guy

1563
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:14,559
the one who said it might be like more

1564
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:17,520
like us than you know

1565
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:19,839
it you know what i'm so open-minded to

1566
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:22,319
the possibility that

1567
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:25,440
i i wouldn't be surprised there are so

1568
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:26,720
many

1569
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,359
theories on what these entities would be

1570
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:31,200
could be what these craft could be some

1571
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:33,760
say it's us from the future some say

1572
01:01:37,829 --> 01:01:34,559
it's

1573
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:37,839
um it could be something just in our

1574
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:40,000
galaxy some say it's an extra

1575
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:41,280
dimensional

1576
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,400
and

1577
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:44,400
then you have those that could say well

1578
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:46,400
maybe it's it's a broken off

1579
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:48,400
civilization

1580
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:52,079
there are so many theories

1581
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:54,799
there are so many sightings people have

1582
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:56,400
people that have gotten close to these

1583
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:58,640
entities describe them differently as if

1584
01:02:03,029 --> 01:02:00,559
they are different races

1585
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:03,039
that it would be really hard to say to

1586
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,079
place all of my eggs in one basket and

1587
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:08,720
state that like yes every single one of

1588
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,000
them is

1589
01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:12,480
closer to us than we could ever imagine

1590
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:15,039
i i feel like just in the same sense

1591
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:16,880
that we have so many different cars we

1592
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:19,760
have trucks we have those cars that like

1593
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:21,359
plow the snow i don't know what those

1594
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:24,079
are called um we have 18 wheelers plow

1595
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:27,200
trucks thank you um they all have they

1596
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:28,559
all

1597
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:32,720
different things some of them take

1598
01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:35,280
diesel sometimes take gasoline

1599
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:38,240
and we simply cannot place

1600
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,160
all of those things in the exact same

1601
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:42,640
category doing the exact same thing

1602
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:45,680
run by the exact same people or entities

1603
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:49,599
right so so it would be hard to say that

1604
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:51,680
the things that we're seeing in the sky

1605
01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:53,920
or in the oceans

1606
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,079
all of them are closer to us than we

1607
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:58,799
know yeah i i couldn't i couldn't say

1608
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:01,119
yes no to that no you know basically

1609
01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:02,720
what i was getting at

1610
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:04,960
is kind of what you just said is like to

1611
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:05,760
me

1612
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:08,480
one theory is almost as good as all the

1613
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:09,359
others

1614
01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:11,920
because there are you know with all the

1615
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:14,480
shows i've done on this i've heard

1616
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:17,440
countless ideas and they're

1617
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:18,960
um

1618
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,680
most of them are very fascinating to me

1619
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,520
and it's kind of what keeps me going too

1620
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:25,359
i really like i like the thought of that

1621
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:27,599
i think you more or less answered this

1622
01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:29,200
in a way um

1623
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:31,599
but is this phenomenon a big deal with

1624
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:34,240
your generation how important is it to

1625
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:37,119
your generation is it even talked about

1626
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,799
like if you

1627
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:40,240
you know with you mentioned being in

1628
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:41,920
high school you didn't know when the new

1629
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,119
york times article came out but was the

1630
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:47,680
topic of ufos or possible

1631
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:50,799
extraterrestrial visitations or

1632
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,280
extraterrestrial life in general

1633
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:55,680
you know kind of a topic or not

1634
01:04:01,829 --> 01:03:58,559
it is and a really good example is uh

1635
01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:01,839
actually last semester in my um

1636
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:03,200
college courses

1637
01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:06,400
four times ufos came up

1638
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:09,119
in in my assignments in my actual

1639
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:11,680
assignments one of them being in my

1640
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:13,359
geology class

1641
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:15,920
bringing up um extraterrestrial life on

1642
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:20,160
mars and stating um how how how would

1643
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:21,200
they

1644
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:25,039
ahead and react to a different

1645
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:28,720
atmosphere and then i also had it in my

1646
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,599
philosophy class as well

1647
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:33,280
which came up twice in two different

1648
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:36,480
assignments talking about

1649
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:39,839
how would you react if you went ahead

1650
01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:40,799
and

1651
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,839
interacted with a being not from this

1652
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:45,760
earth and there were a few other

1653
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:46,960
examples as well that are kind of

1654
01:04:52,829 --> 01:04:48,960
escaping me at this moment

1655
01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:52,839
but it seems like it's becoming a more

1656
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:56,240
mainstream topic to go ahead and

1657
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:58,720
converse about to to even just consider

1658
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,200
and allow your imagination to run now

1659
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:02,880
when it comes to my generation and

1660
01:05:08,549 --> 01:05:04,880
bringing in the science the politics the

1661
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:08,559
history in it maybe not as much

1662
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:09,520
yet

1663
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,240
but

1664
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:12,480
i think the first step and the biggest

1665
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:14,400
step is just having the conversation and

1666
01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:16,079
then going from there and then having

1667
01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:18,880
that once that mind is open once someone

1668
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:21,760
asks that first question the bulls the

1669
01:05:25,589 --> 01:05:23,920
ball starts rolling and then from there

1670
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:25,599
these people can go ahead and do their

1671
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:28,559
own research see what aspect they like

1672
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:30,160
that they want to go ahead and do more

1673
01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:31,760
research on because with the ufo

1674
01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:33,039
phenomenon

1675
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:35,039
there are so many

1676
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,760
paths you can take you can take just the

1677
01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:39,760
science path the history path the

1678
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,079
spiritual path so on and so forth there

1679
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:44,640
are so many that you can that you can go

1680
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:47,039
to but they're all gonna take you

1681
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:48,960
at the same destination they're so gonna

1682
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:51,119
make you ask you the question what's the

1683
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,000
truth

1684
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:54,319
what is going to happen

1685
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:57,039
but you know with

1686
01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:59,039
when talking about

1687
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:01,359
all of this and having my channel and

1688
01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:04,000
and talking to people about it either in

1689
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:06,319
person or like we're doing here

1690
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:08,480
one of my biggest challenges

1691
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,160
is um having battled verbal dyslexia now

1692
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:14,319
i wha for those who don't know what that

1693
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:15,039
is

1694
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:17,200
it's very similar to regular dyslexia

1695
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:19,920
like when you're reading but my brain it

1696
01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:22,319
will think something and then my words

1697
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,480
will say something completely different

1698
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:27,280
and so what to me makes perfect sense

1699
01:06:33,029 --> 01:06:29,760
i'm like yes i'm gonna talk about for

1700
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:33,039
example um elephants okay like elephants

1701
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:34,960
are great but then my words will come

1702
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:36,960
out and they'll say like eggplant or

1703
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:38,640
something and i'm thinking that doesn't

1704
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:40,960
make literally any sense but i can't

1705
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:43,680
catch it uh other people can and they're

1706
01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:46,640
like what the heck is she saying so when

1707
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:47,760
i

1708
01:07:03,589 --> 01:06:59,119
clearly and a sentence won't come out

1709
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:03,599
all jumbled up and so doing my channel

1710
01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:06,720
um doing the shows and and this has kind

1711
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:09,680
of in a sense been a therapy for me and

1712
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:11,839
i challenged myself over and over again

1713
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:14,400
to do so so

1714
01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:15,280
when

1715
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,319
dandy and great in in the inside behind

1716
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:22,640
the scenes all of us have our struggles

1717
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:24,640
all of us have our own little battles

1718
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,520
that we need to go ahead and and

1719
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:29,520
release and go ahead and

1720
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:31,920
fix them and i i don't know i wanted to

1721
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:32,960
bring that up to you it's not something

1722
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:35,920
that i bring up very often but um it's

1723
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:37,440
it's been it's been a really big

1724
01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:39,119
struggle and when i get really nervous

1725
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:41,359
i'll talk really fast and then i'll

1726
01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:42,720
stutter and then i'll get really

1727
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,799
embarrassed and i'll just stop talking

1728
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:46,960
oh poor thing well you know what you're

1729
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:48,880
doing really wonderful and good for you

1730
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,400
to to face whatever it is to to work

1731
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:54,480
through that that's really great

1732
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:57,920
thank you that's that's inspiring and

1733
01:08:02,710 --> 01:07:59,920
maybe inspire other people that that

1734
01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:02,720
hear that too um i love this question

1735
01:08:08,069 --> 01:08:04,640
dave allen what's the first question

1736
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:08,079
christina would ask if she met an alien

1737
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:10,799
i i'd like to answer that myself too so

1738
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:13,440
go ahead well i would ask if they had

1739
01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:16,799
ramen noodles and vanilla ice cream and

1740
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,600
if they did i would classify them as

1741
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:21,600
being intelligent

1742
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:24,319
that's close enough but but in all in

1743
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:27,279
all seriousness to be serious um i i

1744
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:29,600
would ask do you know if there's a

1745
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:32,080
continuum of consciousness after bodily

1746
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:33,520
death or

1747
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:36,000
do you know if there is a supreme being

1748
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:39,120
that created everything and and that's

1749
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:41,120
that would be what i would want to know

1750
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:43,359
now because i'm so fascinated by those

1751
01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:46,319
mysteries not just ufos

1752
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:48,719
well i i think that those are really

1753
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:50,880
great and if the question was asked of

1754
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:54,239
me david if i may um

1755
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:57,120
i would like to ask what is the question

1756
01:09:03,189 --> 01:08:59,679
that i should ask

1757
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:05,430
but they would also assume based off of

1758
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:06,560
your

1759
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:09,040
perceived intelligence that maybe you're

1760
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:11,520
maybe the question that they might want

1761
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:13,040
you to ask

1762
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:16,239
might be ready for you at that moment

1763
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,080
yeah that probably would not understand

1764
01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:21,199
a single thing uh lee spiegel just put

1765
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:23,600
in a question to you what would you like

1766
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:30,630
do you have a preference

1767
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:32,880
no i don't have a preference i i think i

1768
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:34,799
think all of them are exciting and the

1769
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:36,880
biggest thing is to understand their

1770
01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:38,799
knowledge

1771
01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:41,759
that regardless of what they are that

1772
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:43,600
would be complete discrimination right

1773
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:44,799
that would be

1774
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:48,719
want them to be

1775
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:52,319
ramen lovers that look like vanilla ice

1776
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:54,719
cream yeah

1777
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,360
exactly so i i have i haven't even i

1778
01:10:00,790 --> 01:10:00,000
haven't even considered that

1779
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:00,800
but

1780
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:03,280
i i think that the universe is teeming

1781
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:05,520
with life and all of these beings can

1782
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:07,600
look different ones that we can possibly

1783
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:09,920
expect that could look somewhat humanoid

1784
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:12,719
and ones that we couldn't even

1785
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:14,560
imagine what they would look like until

1786
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:17,760
after we see it so

1787
01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:21,120
but you know if if they if these beings

1788
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:21,920
are

1789
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:24,080
do come to earth right and they do have

1790
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:25,600
contact

1791
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:26,640
if

1792
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:31,520
help us defeat cancer could they teach

1793
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,120
us how to not destroy ourselves and what

1794
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:38,320
is our place as a species in the

1795
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:39,920
universe

1796
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:42,000
are we that consequential

1797
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:44,080
you know but we are to our own planet

1798
01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:46,239
how much we're affecting out there i

1799
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,320
have no idea going back to your sighting

1800
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:50,640
this the other people that saw

1801
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:52,239
this is from michael that other people

1802
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:53,840
that saw the

1803
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,840
whatever it is you saw in the sky did

1804
01:11:01,030 --> 01:10:56,880
they

1805
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:01,040
the same way that's a really good

1806
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,880
question and but i want to hear your

1807
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:05,199
answer did you ask them did they see the

1808
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,640
same thing

1809
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:09,120
yes yes um absolutely it's something

1810
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,960
that we talked about amongst ourselves

1811
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:12,640
but didn't really talk about to other

1812
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:14,239
people that didn't see it

1813
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,440
but

1814
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:16,800
yes they

1815
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,440
they did but you know everyone was kind

1816
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:21,840
of embarrassed i mean like

1817
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:24,960
there was a shock in the group um a

1818
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:26,960
total a total shock to like what the

1819
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:28,960
heck did we see and none of us at the

1820
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:31,760
time were interested in the topic right

1821
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,320
so it's it kind of just like

1822
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,000
led at that time the sense of

1823
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:38,159
embarrassment but to my understanding

1824
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:41,120
when we had all spoken about it um

1825
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:44,320
we all did see the same thing

1826
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:45,280
there's

1827
01:11:48,149 --> 01:11:46,400
the reason i think that's a good

1828
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:48,159
question is because there are many times

1829
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,880
where people that i've talked to where

1830
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:52,640
other people that witness the exact

1831
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:54,960
thing at the same time saw something

1832
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:55,840
else

1833
01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:58,320
which i think is another fascinating

1834
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,480
uh another fascinating thing

1835
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,040
and you were describing exactly what i

1836
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:05,120
was feeling when i had my ufo sighting

1837
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:07,520
like what is my brain

1838
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,000
seeing what is that uh you know mine

1839
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:12,239
wasn't spectacular in any type of way

1840
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:14,640
but it was like it didn't fit it didn't

1841
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,040
fit i wasn't ready for that and if i had

1842
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,719
my cell phone right next to me i

1843
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:20,560
wouldn't have thought to pick it up to

1844
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,880
take a picture or just or video it never

1845
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,239
would have thought

1846
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:27,120
um yeah i i totally i totally get what

1847
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:28,880
you mean i mean obviously we we share

1848
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:31,679
the same kind of story and with those

1849
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:32,719
groups of people with that group of

1850
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:35,760
people i was with um we didn't really

1851
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,000
dive deep into it you know we we all

1852
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:40,080
kind of agreed not to not talk about it

1853
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:43,520
again it was a really strange situation

1854
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:46,159
and it still sounds kind of crazy to me

1855
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:49,520
because i even still i haven't processed

1856
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:50,560
it yet

1857
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,040
it's one of those things that

1858
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,040
it's very difficult to go ahead and be

1859
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:57,360
like i know exactly what that was it's

1860
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:01,360
it's difficult to process yeah yeah

1861
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:02,880
you know you can always say i saw

1862
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:05,040
something i have no idea what it was you

1863
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,640
know i mean that's basically

1864
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:09,199
what i saw oh you know my my thing that

1865
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,880
i was saying is that there's no way it

1866
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,880
was something we had

1867
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:15,040
you know i mean with the characteristics

1868
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:16,480
and the look of it

1869
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:18,800
and the way it moved uh this question i

1870
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:20,080
have no idea if you look at other

1871
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:22,000
people's youtube channels

1872
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:25,120
but ivan00135

1873
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:26,640
do you do you check out other people's

1874
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:27,760
channels i guess that's what the

1875
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:28,960
question is

1876
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,960
i haven't seen that one no

1877
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:32,640
yeah but i'll look at it

1878
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:33,440
yeah

1879
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:35,120
is that something you do do you see what

1880
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:38,320
other people are doing and if so um are

1881
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:40,480
you

1882
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:47,840
with that

1883
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,640
um

1884
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:50,239
what do you mean by that

1885
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:52,000
there are some that are just doing it

1886
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:53,840
for click and money

1887
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:55,920
for the views and money there's a couple

1888
01:13:59,669 --> 01:13:58,159
channels out there

1889
01:14:02,070 --> 01:13:59,679
that are

1890
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:02,080
making a lot of money

1891
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:05,840
and they're doing it by hoaxing videos

1892
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:08,000
for anyone that invites me to their

1893
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:09,120
channel and wants to have this

1894
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:11,679
conversation for the most part i will go

1895
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,960
ahead and

1896
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:14,719
approach their channel and and talk

1897
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:17,040
about this and for those that

1898
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:18,880
write might feel like their channel

1899
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:21,040
might be a hoax or they're not feeling

1900
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,120
too good about it

1901
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:25,600
what i want to do is just bring this

1902
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,760
conversation to more people regardless

1903
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:29,120
of who it is regardless of their

1904
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:31,600
mindsets their bias their opinions just

1905
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:34,480
having this conversation asking that one

1906
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:36,560
question can change someone's

1907
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:39,040
perspective for the rest of their lives

1908
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,120
so there hasn't been a moment there

1909
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:43,679
hasn't been any times where someone has

1910
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:46,000
said oh don't go to that channel and and

1911
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:47,760
if and if they did they never invited me

1912
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:49,040
over

1913
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:50,480
so yeah so

1914
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,400
why i meant by that is they're they're

1915
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:54,320
getting a lot of traffic because they're

1916
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:55,600
posting

1917
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:58,960
so they're getting a lot of traffic

1918
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:00,719
they're making a lot of money

1919
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:03,679
and they're doing it as a business

1920
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:06,080
very spectacular cgi

1921
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:08,640
well and then in that case yeah i i

1922
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:10,480
steer clear of that because i know there

1923
01:15:14,709 --> 01:15:12,400
are there are a handful of clickbait

1924
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:14,719
channels yeah and i i don't watch their

1925
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:17,040
stuff but i am open to talking to anyone

1926
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:19,280
really unless they are trolls or unless

1927
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:20,719
they're hostile

1928
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:22,719
but it

1929
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:23,520
yeah

1930
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:28,400
louise is saying hi

1931
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:30,480
the unidentified celebrity reviewer are

1932
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:32,880
you there oh and by the way for the

1933
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:35,040
person that asked about that specific

1934
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:36,960
channel and i i

1935
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,840
am i lost it yeah um

1936
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:42,480
it says here i just went ahead and

1937
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:43,679
looked

1938
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:46,960
it uh it's the ruins of ancient shiva

1939
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:49,520
worship oh okay so it's an ancient icy

1940
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:51,440
uh-huh yeah so i haven't looked into it

1941
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:54,159
but i i i will i'll look i have it i

1942
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:56,080
have it opened now what was the

1943
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:57,679
particular temple where you had your

1944
01:16:01,430 --> 01:15:59,120
sighting

1945
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:01,440
it isn't one that's documented it was

1946
01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:03,920
just a shiva temple yeah and it was like

1947
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:05,520
it was in ruins i mean it was a very

1948
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:08,400
very very old temple

1949
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,520
yeah

1950
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,760
and so i guess that leads me to the

1951
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:13,679
thought of

1952
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:15,760
um

1953
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,239
ancient aliens you know i mean i think

1954
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,640
that the show there's a lot of stuff

1955
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,400
that really reaches out there and i

1956
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:24,960
think i've only watched two episodes i'm

1957
01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:27,360
so i can't really judge it too well but

1958
01:16:30,790 --> 01:16:29,280
i know that when i was watching and i

1959
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:30,800
thought well that's kind of a stretch

1960
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:33,360
this is kind of a stretch but my own

1961
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:34,480
personal

1962
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,040
thoughts is it's possible that we could

1963
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:39,120
have always been visited but what are

1964
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:41,040
your thoughts on that

1965
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:44,239
that was one of the very first alien tv

1966
01:16:48,630 --> 01:16:45,840
shows that kind of went mainstream it

1967
01:16:51,669 --> 01:16:48,640
was one of the first shows that made

1968
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:51,679
people think outside of the box now

1969
01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:55,199
while we might not all agree to their

1970
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,120
i guess sometimes outlandish

1971
01:17:03,189 --> 01:16:59,760
explanations or theories

1972
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:03,199
that show all together is to bring the

1973
01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:05,679
to bring this profound topic to the

1974
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:08,480
mainstream to make them think and to ask

1975
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:10,800
questions because ancient aliens they

1976
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,960
give you all these theories but that

1977
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:14,640
doesn't mean that they actually have the

1978
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:16,239
answer they're just kind of saying well

1979
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:17,360
i think

1980
01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:19,840
this based off of this which is what

1981
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:22,000
we're doing here today we're just kind

1982
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:22,800
of

1983
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:29,199
mean

1984
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:31,520
there there is a lot of big stretches

1985
01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:34,320
and i think i i like how it has such

1986
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:36,960
longevity and it stimulates people's

1987
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:40,320
minds i mean as a trigger it exposes

1988
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:42,800
people to these concepts and gets people

1989
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:46,400
to ask the questions so overall

1990
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:48,960
i'm rather pleased with

1991
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:51,199
what they've done with with the audience

1992
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:53,040
that they have gained from it the

1993
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:55,040
traction as well

1994
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:58,080
yeah i i agree in that way that it's

1995
01:18:00,709 --> 01:17:59,520
definitely

1996
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:00,719
made

1997
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:03,760
people be more open to the topic overall

1998
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:05,679
someone that may have kind of fallen in

1999
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:07,440
or may have a history

2000
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,520
type you know passion that might watch

2001
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:11,199
it just to see the old

2002
01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:13,040
you know the old ruins or whatever it is

2003
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:14,719
they're exploring there

2004
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:16,080
and uh

2005
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:18,480
so i agree that it it has

2006
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:21,600
opened up some eyes the phone line is

2007
01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:23,440
open if you'd like to call in

2008
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:25,679
that's eight five five

2009
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:27,440
two

2010
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,679
and bill is standing by

2011
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:31,280
so if you'd like to call in with a

2012
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:33,040
question for our guest tonight

2013
01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:34,080
um

2014
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:36,239
do call in we have several lines

2015
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:37,440
available

2016
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:39,040
so have you ever been on the show when

2017
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:40,880
someone's called in

2018
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:44,640
uh i have i have so you're wow you are

2019
01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:46,640
yeah you're you're a pro

2020
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:49,760
i don't know but um for the time being

2021
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:53,920
james asks do you think bigfoots are

2022
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:57,120
connected to ufos and i just want to say

2023
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,360
i am looking into that and i will do a

2024
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:01,440
show on that on the future because it's

2025
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:02,960
a fascinating

2026
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:05,199
concept to think about are they because

2027
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:06,719
there are so many stories well there are

2028
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:08,080
not so many but there are quite a few

2029
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:10,560
stories where people have seen a ufo

2030
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:12,080
sighting and then a bigfoot sighting

2031
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,640
like back to back or sometimes at the

2032
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:16,400
exact same time when they're looking in

2033
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:20,719
one direction so it's it's one that i

2034
01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:23,280
think about and looking forward to doing

2035
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:25,280
a show on in the near future

2036
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:26,880
yes i actually have

2037
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:29,440
can you believe it i have two shows

2038
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:31,040
that involved

2039
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,239
and one is uh with alan mur gaggle and

2040
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:36,800
that's coming up february 1st he's a

2041
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:40,719
uh he is a filmmaker uh wrote wrote a

2042
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:43,520
movie in particular about about that and

2043
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:45,280
then i have stan gordon all the way at

2044
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:47,600
the end of march who did some research

2045
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,400
into that um a long time ago speaking of

2046
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:52,080
upcoming guests

2047
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:55,520
next week is pretty exciting i have

2048
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:57,360
and i want to pronounce this monroe

2049
01:20:02,630 --> 01:19:58,239
neville

2050
01:20:05,189 --> 01:20:02,640
was involved in rendelsham forest he's

2051
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:05,199
never talked about it uh he's he's

2052
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:06,719
talked about it i think on one other

2053
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:08,960
show he's ready to talk about it and he

2054
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:10,400
says he's not going to hold back with

2055
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:13,120
anything so he'll be on next week here

2056
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:15,760
uh at the same time as always

2057
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:16,560
so

2058
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,880
that'll that'll be interesting that is i

2059
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:20,239
don't know how much you've looked into

2060
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:22,880
the rendel shim forest but it's such a

2061
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:25,120
convoluted case with the different

2062
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:26,080
people

2063
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:29,040
the infighting in between them all and

2064
01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:32,639
some things that didn't make sense um so

2065
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:35,679
yeah i'm i'm interested to see

2066
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:37,440
you know what that what that show is

2067
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:39,520
going to be like it should be good

2068
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:42,080
um i hope the guy has can get on the

2069
01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:43,600
internet it might be just a telephone

2070
01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:45,920
interview i'm trying to find out at this

2071
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:48,800
point so anyway the lines are open and

2072
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:50,560
there's something wrong with the private

2073
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:52,400
check because it's not showing up like

2074
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:54,400
it's supposed to we actually do have a

2075
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:55,600
caller

2076
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:57,440
and

2077
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,360
we have hector from puerto rico hector

2078
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:01,679
welcome to the show

2079
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:04,560
oh thank you thank you very much

2080
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:06,080
thanks welcome you have a question for

2081
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:08,080
our guest tonight

2082
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:10,560
yeah sure

2083
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:12,960
thank you uh i have the question for

2084
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:14,560
christina

2085
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:16,880
okay

2086
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:21,040
my first question my first question is

2087
01:21:27,189 --> 01:21:24,159
uh what will be your reaction if

2088
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:27,199
there is a i start to have your presence

2089
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:31,590
i'm sorry you broke up can you repeat

2090
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:36,070
okay

2091
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:39,360
what will be your reaction if you know

2092
01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:42,560
everybody knows that there's

2093
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:43,840
this uh

2094
01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:48,480
exothermic presence here on earth

2095
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:51,199
oh okay so what would my reaction be

2096
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:54,800
if we knew there was an extraterrestrial

2097
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:57,600
presence on earth well i would be very

2098
01:22:02,629 --> 01:21:59,920
open to it and i in a sense i would kind

2099
01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:02,639
of expect it i mean it makes sense that

2100
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:08,229
um okay so we're having a little bit of

2101
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:09,280
feedback

2102
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:12,719
hector anything follow up on that

2103
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:14,719
yeah uh

2104
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:17,280
my other question is uh

2105
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:20,800
if she is following any particular

2106
01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:21,840
exotic

2107
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:23,040
case

2108
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,719
quite a few that i really enjoy

2109
01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:40,400
that i have um

2110
01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:43,280
done a bit of research on one of them is

2111
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:46,639
the one in colorado's brazil um now i i

2112
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,960
don't know if that is a necessarily a

2113
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:50,400
true story it has a lot of alleged

2114
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:53,360
accounts um like several thousand

2115
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:56,000
witnesses as well it's rather insane but

2116
01:23:02,790 --> 01:22:59,520
that one at this current time

2117
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:02,800
is my favorite story and kind of to go

2118
01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:04,000
back to

2119
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:05,920
your first question which both of these

2120
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:08,639
kind of coexist which is

2121
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:12,639
when when we go out into the stars we

2122
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:15,760
will be watching other species on other

2123
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:19,120
worlds so it wouldn't it wouldn't boggle

2124
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:21,040
my mind if that's already happening for

2125
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,280
example with the kolaris event

2126
01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:25,360
that happened in brazil in the 1970s

2127
01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:27,360
1980s

2128
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:29,840
in that story in particular you're

2129
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:32,719
having multiple different craft during

2130
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:36,000
six months going ahead and terrorizing

2131
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:38,639
the town folk in caloris brazil

2132
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:40,080
so it it's

2133
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:43,360
some of these stories i think um would

2134
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:44,800
just make

2135
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:48,320
it it wouldn't make me question if it's

2136
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:51,520
not possible i believe that

2137
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:54,000
us being visited by extraterrestrials is

2138
01:24:02,310 --> 01:23:59,430
well um is that the case where the the

2139
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,320
guy was burned

2140
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:04,400
am i thinking of the right one one of

2141
01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:06,960
the people were burned

2142
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:10,719
there were a few people yes yes and

2143
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:12,080
there they were they also got like

2144
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:14,080
puncture wounds as well by the lights

2145
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,600
they had like these kinds of needles in

2146
01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:16,480
a sense

2147
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:18,560
um where it went ahead and punctured the

2148
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:20,560
women in the chest and the

2149
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:23,040
men in the jugular area so there were

2150
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:25,280
multiple people burned over a period of

2151
01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:27,520
time over six months

2152
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:29,840
and it's it's a really fascinating story

2153
01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:34,159
it's totally a sci-fi movie story and

2154
01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:36,719
for several thousand people

2155
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,520
they

2156
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:39,520
classified it as being true like it

2157
01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:40,960
really did happen it really did

2158
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:43,520
terrorize a small fishing town

2159
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,320
right yes um so we

2160
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:48,080
stephen i guess just hung up we do have

2161
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:49,920
the line open if someone would like to

2162
01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:52,239
call in so what are some of the other

2163
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,719
ones that i mean i have my favorites i

2164
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,800
can't help it but what are some of the

2165
01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,320
other ones that you really think are

2166
01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:00,639
fascinating you mentioned the tic tac is

2167
01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:02,480
that one of them the tic tac is is

2168
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:05,199
definitely one just because

2169
01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:08,239
it has been recorded by

2170
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:10,239
government cameras and i think that's a

2171
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:12,960
really big deal for a lot of people

2172
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:15,440
but the the chorus by far is my favorite

2173
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:17,520
and then i think one that i just really

2174
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:19,760
enjoy musing about

2175
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:21,760
one that

2176
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:23,199
just it really just kind of makes me

2177
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:26,320
smile in a sense is the one at the

2178
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:28,239
holloman air force base where president

2179
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:31,040
eisenhower had a meeting with ufos like

2180
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:34,000
with a certain kind of entity and even

2181
01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:35,679
though we do not know if that's true

2182
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:37,360
these are simply alleged accounts of

2183
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:39,199
certain military officials that said

2184
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:41,840
well president eisenhower did enter a

2185
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:44,320
craft when we were flying the plane

2186
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:47,520
there was a craft above the airplane

2187
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:49,440
when entering into the holloman air

2188
01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:52,719
force base and that one i i just find so

2189
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:55,120
exciting like it makes me it just makes

2190
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:58,000
me smile thinking like oh my gosh a u.s

2191
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:00,719
president could be in contact with

2192
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,199
aliens what happens next

2193
01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:05,520
but but again you know these are merely

2194
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:07,120
alleged accounts we do not know that

2195
01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:09,199
actually happened or not

2196
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:12,639
but it opens it opens the door to

2197
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:15,600
asking questions to being curious

2198
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,800
and

2199
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:18,400
in all of this

2200
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:20,719
the biggest thing is that i'm still

2201
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:22,560
learning and i'm still reading up on the

2202
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:26,080
history and there are so many cases to

2203
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:29,280
go through and even recent sightings so

2204
01:26:34,629 --> 01:26:32,000
what i like is constantly changing after

2205
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,639
each book i read after every encounter i

2206
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:36,480
read just because there's so there's so

2207
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:38,239
much to go through but what about you

2208
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:39,840
which one's your favorite

2209
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:43,040
um i've decided over the last

2210
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,719
i don't know maybe just the last year

2211
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:47,040
that i think it's the

2212
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:48,880
ariel school

2213
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,280
incident which i just think is is

2214
01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:53,520
fascinating because of and the the

2215
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:56,239
school children's sightings to me

2216
01:26:59,590 --> 01:26:57,520
um

2217
01:27:02,709 --> 01:26:59,600
is fascinating and i think there's

2218
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:02,719
really something to that more than just

2219
01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:04,960
that this thing just happened to go in a

2220
01:27:07,910 --> 01:27:06,159
schoolyard

2221
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:07,920
um because of so many times this has

2222
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,800
happened westall and um i know you

2223
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:12,960
mentioned preston dennett earlier he did

2224
01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:15,040
a book and i think he said there was

2225
01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:19,679
like 110 120 um yeah you know schoolyard

2226
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:21,520
sightings and i've interviewed two

2227
01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:23,280
people that have never talked about it

2228
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:24,400
before

2229
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:26,800
one of them was in oakland and one i had

2230
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:29,840
an entire show on deb coyle still one of

2231
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:32,960
my favorite shows in the last year

2232
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:35,600
was with her because it was so heartfelt

2233
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:37,120
and was the first time she ever spoke

2234
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:38,159
about it

2235
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:41,920
so i love those those type of

2236
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:44,400
of shows talking to people

2237
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:46,000
that are talking about it for the first

2238
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:46,880
time

2239
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:47,760
so

2240
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:50,320
as far as the ones that are really

2241
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:51,760
widely known

2242
01:27:56,550 --> 01:27:54,320
i would have to say the ariel school

2243
01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:56,560
um i have like a top five and these are

2244
01:28:01,830 --> 01:27:58,719
just my own preference i mean preference

2245
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,840
it means nothing um the tic tac you know

2246
01:28:06,070 --> 01:28:03,360
that whole event

2247
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:06,080
that's in the five the phoenix slice is

2248
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:08,159
in the five rendel shrimp forest is in

2249
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:09,440
the five

2250
01:28:13,669 --> 01:28:11,840
and did i go six yet

2251
01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:13,679
but no i think i did about four or five

2252
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:15,600
but anyway those are those are all what

2253
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:18,159
i think are very very fascinating now

2254
01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:20,080
i'd like to look a little bit more into

2255
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:21,840
the brazil one

2256
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:24,159
because that that i do remember i

2257
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:26,719
haven't looked deeply into that but you

2258
01:28:30,709 --> 01:28:28,080
really think there's something to it as

2259
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:30,719
far as eisenhower i don't know i think

2260
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:31,840
that was

2261
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:33,679
i think that's kind of a fable but i

2262
01:28:38,870 --> 01:28:36,800
it's it's so it's so hard to know or

2263
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:38,880
could very well be yeah you know we we

2264
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,960
don't know and that's that's the whole

2265
01:28:46,390 --> 01:28:43,280
thing with this ufo phenomenon all

2266
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:46,400
together it's difficult to decipher

2267
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,159
what's a hoax what's a fable and what's

2268
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:50,800
not it's it's not an easy feat

2269
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:51,760
but

2270
01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:53,679
again it's just having these

2271
01:28:58,229 --> 01:28:56,239
conversations just to even consider it

2272
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:58,239
that opens the door to so many more

2273
01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:59,280
questions

2274
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:01,120
and in some respects to go ahead and

2275
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:03,520
push forward just to hopefully get those

2276
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:06,080
answers yeah um lee spiegel just

2277
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:08,000
mentioned the larry coin

2278
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:09,679
case which is a helicopter case that's a

2279
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:11,199
heck of a case for anyone that wants to

2280
01:29:15,149 --> 01:29:13,120
do a little googling on that coin i

2281
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:15,159
believe is

2282
01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:18,080
c-o-y-n-e i believe we have another

2283
01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:19,920
we have another caller

2284
01:29:26,790 --> 01:29:22,960
and that's uh leilani from california

2285
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:31,750
hello you're live on the air leilani

2286
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:34,310
are you there

2287
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:38,639
i guess you there lolani

2288
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:41,199
last call

2289
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,159
okay

2290
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:44,400
maybe she'll be back maybe she won't

2291
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:46,080
um

2292
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:48,400
yeah the larry coin case was really

2293
01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:50,800
quite amazing i don't know if you've

2294
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:52,239
ever heard about it but i think it was

2295
01:29:57,669 --> 01:29:54,480
in the 70s at some point

2296
01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:57,679
and a military helicopter

2297
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:58,800
um

2298
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:00,880
i think there was five or six maybe more

2299
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:03,760
people and it would raise up i think

2300
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:06,480
like a thousand feet instantly above the

2301
01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:08,159
um toward this object that was above

2302
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:09,360
them

2303
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:12,000
so 1973 is when that happened but yeah

2304
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,159
that's a real fascinating case

2305
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:16,480
and um that was military there's a lot

2306
01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:18,000
of military

2307
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:20,560
interaction one way or the other

2308
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:21,840
there are

2309
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:24,960
all right we're gonna try one more time

2310
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:27,360
and let's give it another try melania

2311
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:32,790
hello

2312
01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:34,880
i guess it's uh we're having trouble

2313
01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:36,480
with the

2314
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:38,719
the sound apparently when it comes to

2315
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:40,400
the bill i don't know if you can fix

2316
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:41,920
anything with that but uh we're gonna

2317
01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:49,590
so yeah um it doesn't mean

2318
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,440
that cases that i like have any more

2319
01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:53,440
credence and other ones you know it's

2320
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:55,040
just that i

2321
01:31:00,550 --> 01:30:57,679
personally find those fascinating

2322
01:31:02,709 --> 01:31:00,560
especially the arielle school and i get

2323
01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:02,719
at least an email a week

2324
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:04,400
people asking me when that movie is

2325
01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:06,800
coming out the ariel phenomenon and i

2326
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:08,239
don't know

2327
01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:10,239
um i know it's going to be on a major

2328
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:12,320
streaming platform it was supposed to be

2329
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:14,159
out before the end of the year

2330
01:31:17,189 --> 01:31:15,280
now i

2331
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:17,199
have my update is sometime the first

2332
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:18,880
part of this year let's try it again

2333
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:20,400
with a different caller see if this

2334
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:21,360
works

2335
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:23,280
ken you are live on the air welcome to

2336
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,390
yeah we're having audio

2337
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:30,800
there we go ken you're there

2338
01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:32,480
yes i am yes i am yeah i'd like to just

2339
01:31:34,629 --> 01:31:33,120
say

2340
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:34,639
okay

2341
01:31:38,709 --> 01:31:36,000
you know

2342
01:31:40,950 --> 01:31:38,719
we know right i've heard lou elizondo

2343
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:40,960
talk about reading documents that were

2344
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:44,239
written in latin of soldiers um

2345
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:46,480
discussing seeing these luminous objects

2346
01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:47,760
in the sky

2347
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:51,040
and you know we our history is filled

2348
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:54,400
with uh sailors seeing underwater lights

2349
01:31:59,590 --> 01:31:56,000
you know we know the russians have

2350
01:32:02,470 --> 01:31:59,600
encountered fleets of usos underwater

2351
01:32:06,229 --> 01:32:02,480
there are literally thousands of videos

2352
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:06,239
and reports of uf us ufos entering and

2353
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:09,120
exiting our oceans entering and exiting

2354
01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:11,600
our volcanoes entering and exiting our

2355
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:13,360
deepest lakes

2356
01:32:16,870 --> 01:32:14,400
right

2357
01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:16,880
why wouldn't you think that there's

2358
01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:19,360
already a presence on this earth the

2359
01:32:23,990 --> 01:32:21,120
evidence is there

2360
01:32:26,550 --> 01:32:24,000
and this idea that um like we don't know

2361
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:26,560
what it is or we can't say that you know

2362
01:32:31,430 --> 01:32:28,880
we for sure what it is but we know it's

2363
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:31,440
something i mean we know for sure that

2364
01:32:35,189 --> 01:32:33,679
it's not like minnie mouse you know

2365
01:32:38,070 --> 01:32:35,199
in those crafts

2366
01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:38,080
when i see a plane or a helicopter right

2367
01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:41,199
in the sky i intuitively know that there

2368
01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:43,920
is somebody in there or if if it's a

2369
01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:46,480
drone then someone built it so when i

2370
01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:49,040
see these crafts that are doing these

2371
01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:51,360
moves that that we we don't know how to

2372
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:53,600
do we don't have the technology to do it

2373
01:32:58,629 --> 01:32:55,920
right and then we there's all of these

2374
01:33:01,990 --> 01:32:58,639
anecdotal stories about

2375
01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:02,000
about these advanced beings so yeah why

2376
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:04,159
wouldn't or why couldn't you accept the

2377
01:33:10,070 --> 01:33:07,760
idea that there are these advanced

2378
01:33:11,590 --> 01:33:10,080
beings that already live in our oceans

2379
01:33:16,310 --> 01:33:11,600
and have lived in our oceans for

2380
01:33:21,510 --> 01:33:18,870
well first off ken i want to say you

2381
01:33:22,629 --> 01:33:21,520
have a radio voice

2382
01:33:24,310 --> 01:33:22,639
so amazing

2383
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:24,320
so um

2384
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:27,760
i to to answer your question i don't

2385
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:30,080
have the evidence we have lots of cases

2386
01:33:34,629 --> 01:33:32,960
and reports and anecdotal tales but do i

2387
01:33:37,590 --> 01:33:34,639
have the evidence

2388
01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:37,600
no i am open-minded to them being here

2389
01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:39,280
under the oceans

2390
01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:40,239
but

2391
01:33:46,149 --> 01:33:43,440
still i i think we really need the

2392
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,159
objects in our hands or to to have

2393
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:48,719
public contact with these things and for

2394
01:33:52,870 --> 01:33:51,440
the majority of the public they don't

2395
01:33:55,030 --> 01:33:52,880
know about that

2396
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:55,040
so let's get the data out there that's

2397
01:33:58,310 --> 01:33:56,560
the biggest thing

2398
01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:58,320
well do you think that those videos that

2399
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:00,320
the military released or fake or

2400
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:05,270
how is that not evidence

2401
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:08,000
it's it it's still rather new for a lot

2402
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:09,840
of people a lot of people haven't even

2403
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:12,320
seen these videos

2404
01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:14,960
but you know you you have a point ken

2405
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:17,600
don't get me wrong you do have a point

2406
01:34:22,709 --> 01:34:20,480
but i still i i still think we need even

2407
01:34:25,669 --> 01:34:22,719
more evidence from that because yes we

2408
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:25,679
have the tic tac to go fast the gimbal

2409
01:34:30,709 --> 01:34:28,000
but then people are still gonna complain

2410
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:30,719
oh well it's blurry oh well it's not

2411
01:34:37,830 --> 01:34:34,480
good enough and again i am open-minded

2412
01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:37,840
to them being non-human intelligence but

2413
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:40,000
has the world change has there been

2414
01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:41,760
contact

2415
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,320
not yet christina there's nothing no

2416
01:34:49,510 --> 01:34:46,480
right that the majority of people on

2417
01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:49,520
planet earth are idiots all right

2418
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:52,000
and if you just go back to copernicus go

2419
01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:54,400
back to galileo right these people when

2420
01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:56,080
they were trying to tell the rest of the

2421
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,239
world that the earth was not the center

2422
01:35:03,590 --> 01:35:00,880
of our solar system they were ridiculed

2423
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:03,600
right one one one person was trying to

2424
01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:06,560
tell the everyone else the fact or or uh

2425
01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:08,719
jay harlan brent with his missoula flood

2426
01:35:13,669 --> 01:35:11,679
theory right all these other people

2427
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,679
disagreed with him and but when they

2428
01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:15,920
were presenting facts

2429
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:18,159
but yet all these idiots

2430
01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:20,400
right the majority of humans are idiot

2431
01:35:24,629 --> 01:35:23,520
they're stupid okay all right full of

2432
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,639
people

2433
01:35:28,709 --> 01:35:26,960
that actually speak the truth so why

2434
01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:28,719
would you rely on all the idiots in the

2435
01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:29,679
world

2436
01:35:37,189 --> 01:35:35,030
did you have such a since you have such

2437
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:37,199
a great voice i'm looking forward to

2438
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:39,840
your own show when you start it

2439
01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:41,520
oh i have a channel it's called ufo

2440
01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:44,000
video addicts and here you know

2441
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:45,360
i've been doing these videos for two and

2442
01:35:49,750 --> 01:35:47,280
a half years so that's why i know

2443
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:49,760
i don't believe i know that we are not

2444
01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:52,159
alone on this planet

2445
01:35:57,109 --> 01:35:54,480
yes thank you i've been making videos

2446
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:57,119
about it yeah all right ken we have uh

2447
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:58,080
we have

2448
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:00,000
some people lined up on the phone thank

2449
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:02,560
you very much

2450
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:03,760
thank you

2451
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:08,320
leilani i want to apologize for you i

2452
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:10,480
apologize to you thank you for coming

2453
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:11,440
back

2454
01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:13,280
and i forgot you're from california as

2455
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:15,520
well welcome to the show

2456
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:17,760
i am thank you um i had it muted so i

2457
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:18,960
don't know what you guys have been

2458
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:21,040
talking about i didn't want any feedback

2459
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:22,480
but i just want to say

2460
01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:25,520
thank you for both of you uh to talk

2461
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:27,679
about this because um

2462
01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:30,000
christina you're refreshing the fact

2463
01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:32,719
that you're young and so smart and so

2464
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:34,080
open-minded

2465
01:36:36,790 --> 01:36:34,960
is

2466
01:36:39,830 --> 01:36:36,800
um

2467
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:39,840
i guess uh reassuring to me i'm an older

2468
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:42,080
generation and martin this is i

2469
01:36:45,830 --> 01:36:44,000
apologize this is only the second show

2470
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:45,840
of yours that i've watched um i'm not

2471
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:47,440
even really familiar

2472
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:50,480
we're forgiven yes

2473
01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:54,159
i hate to admit that out loud but um

2474
01:37:11,510 --> 01:36:55,600
i

2475
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,520
uh

2476
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:13,199
found out

2477
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:15,840
that i have an ability to communicate

2478
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:16,719
and

2479
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:18,000
um

2480
01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:20,000
i don't know how to explain this kind of

2481
01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:22,159
like when christina was relating her

2482
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:24,239
story about india

2483
01:37:28,229 --> 01:37:26,800
and her encounter

2484
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:28,239
i can

2485
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:30,080
communicate with

2486
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:32,159
multi-dimensional beings

2487
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:33,280
and

2488
01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:37,199
um communicate actually telepathically

2489
01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:39,119
with et's

2490
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:41,520
i know i just said that out loud

2491
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:42,400
um

2492
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:43,679
but anyway

2493
01:37:47,669 --> 01:37:46,480
it's reassuring to me that we're able to

2494
01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:47,679
communicate

2495
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:50,480
and talk about this more openly

2496
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:51,920
and

2497
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:57,030
but

2498
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,760
i was told three years ago

2499
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:00,960
that

2500
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:03,119
within three years

2501
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:05,679
there will be very few people on this

2502
01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:06,560
earth

2503
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:10,159
who would not believe in ufos

2504
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:12,639
and i'm watching this over the three

2505
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:16,560
years unfold right before my very eyes

2506
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:17,440
and

2507
01:38:21,750 --> 01:38:19,440
my personal experience

2508
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,760
when i was younger i remember when the

2509
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:24,159
movie fire in the sky came out with

2510
01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:26,239
travis walton

2511
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:28,320
and i went to the movie i saw it with my

2512
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:29,440
friends

2513
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:32,080
and thought oh that's a good movie

2514
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:33,760
do you think much of it just thought it

2515
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:35,119
was hollywood

2516
01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:37,360
and now i'm seeing

2517
01:38:42,390 --> 01:38:40,320
travis come out and be more open

2518
01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:42,400
about his experience and what happened

2519
01:38:46,070 --> 01:38:43,440
to him

2520
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:46,080
and relayed to us

2521
01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:47,679
first person

2522
01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:50,560
that it was a movie it was created for

2523
01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:52,239
hollywood and excitement and

2524
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,080
entertainment

2525
01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:56,800
and to actually hear him

2526
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:58,400
give his own

2527
01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:59,199
uh

2528
01:39:01,669 --> 01:39:00,320
version

2529
01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:01,679
and also

2530
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:04,239
in my research in the last four years

2531
01:39:07,750 --> 01:39:05,440
because i had to get up to speed i

2532
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:07,760
didn't even know anything about ufos or

2533
01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:10,000
ets or you know i thought oh you know as

2534
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:11,280
a scientist

2535
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:13,600
it's impossible for us to be on this

2536
01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:16,000
planet all by ourselves

2537
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:18,880
or it's arrogant to think that we we are

2538
01:39:22,950 --> 01:39:21,920
the only species right

2539
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:22,960
and

2540
01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:23,920
um

2541
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:25,840
now through personal experience but i'm

2542
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:27,840
trying to catch up so i don't know

2543
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:30,719
anything about all these things

2544
01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:32,400
these people that you guys have

2545
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:34,800
mentioned these encounters

2546
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,440
and so i have a fresh perspective

2547
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,320
and that's what i find so exciting about

2548
01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:43,199
christina so um anyway

2549
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:47,119
may i may i ask you a question

2550
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:50,159
sure how how are you sure

2551
01:39:53,430 --> 01:39:52,159
whatever it is you're communicating as a

2552
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:53,440
scientist

2553
01:39:58,229 --> 01:39:55,280
how are you sure whatever it is you're

2554
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:58,239
communicating with is what you think

2555
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:01,440
they are what you're stating here

2556
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:03,520
i know that's a very good question as a

2557
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:06,800
scientist i want to know the truth and i

2558
01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:09,119
research everything um

2559
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,280
but when it's happening to you

2560
01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:13,920
personally

2561
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:14,960
there's

2562
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:20,239
you

2563
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:32,320
it's going to sound crazy and cuckoo

2564
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:34,480
and how do i know

2565
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:35,600
um

2566
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:38,239
that it is

2567
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:39,840
extraterrestrial

2568
01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:42,880
yes because they told me

2569
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,119
and because i know that this information

2570
01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:47,199
is not coming from me

2571
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:48,800
it's not something

2572
01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:51,679
i had no experience with ets i had no

2573
01:40:56,229 --> 01:40:54,719
experience with ufos i wasn't

2574
01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:56,239
um

2575
01:41:02,870 --> 01:40:58,719
excited about it as a lot of your

2576
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,709
my only

2577
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:06,800
um

2578
01:41:12,550 --> 01:41:09,679
association with it was carl sagan like

2579
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:12,560
i love carl sagan

2580
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:15,280
and he had a lot to teach me

2581
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:17,840
but other than that no i i wouldn't call

2582
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:19,840
myself a ufologist

2583
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:23,600
um in fact i'm still not

2584
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,800
um i don't know how to explain it um

2585
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:28,239
a fan

2586
01:41:35,109 --> 01:41:31,760
i just know what i've experienced and so

2587
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:35,119
um i try to be open-minded

2588
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:37,199
and again so i just want to say thank

2589
01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:38,800
you to both of you

2590
01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:40,400
for doing this

2591
01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:41,679
podcast

2592
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:43,520
and i look forward to hearing more from

2593
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:46,400
christina and from you martin as well

2594
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:47,840
um but

2595
01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:49,440
question

2596
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:51,440
um

2597
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:53,840
i don't i don't even know but

2598
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:55,920
i guess for both of you this is a

2599
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:56,880
question

2600
01:42:01,109 --> 01:41:59,360
um have you thought that

2601
01:42:02,870 --> 01:42:01,119
there are the ets are already

2602
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:02,880
communicating with us

2603
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:05,360
and put those thoughts in our heads

2604
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,960
to say oh look up now and you'll see me

2605
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:09,760
or

2606
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:12,639
go to this temple in india

2607
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,760
and

2608
01:42:17,350 --> 01:42:15,440
knowing ahead of time that you're going

2609
01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:17,360
to have that encounter you're going to

2610
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:19,199
have that experience

2611
01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:20,800
to then

2612
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:22,480
start a show

2613
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:24,000
or a podcast

2614
01:42:28,229 --> 01:42:25,600
or a youtube channel

2615
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:28,239
to start talking about it so that more

2616
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:30,080
and more people hear about your

2617
01:42:34,390 --> 01:42:31,600
experience

2618
01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:34,400
have you thought of that

2619
01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:37,040
that's a good question uh leilani and

2620
01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:39,119
first off thank you so much for opening

2621
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:41,440
up about about what you can do

2622
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:42,480
and

2623
01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:44,800
just to touch on that you know i i don't

2624
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,239
have that ability that'd be pretty

2625
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:48,400
awesome if i did but you know i'm i'm

2626
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:50,719
very open-minded to it and and that is

2627
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,600
your unique story i'll listen to those

2628
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:55,440
stories but i really can't do anything

2629
01:42:59,590 --> 01:42:57,760
with that it is purely subjective to

2630
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:59,600
those people out there who say they can

2631
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,119
communicate with entities from other

2632
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:03,360
dimensions and other dimensions and from

2633
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:04,560
the stars

2634
01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:07,440
but uh i i can really only work on with

2635
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:10,320
the things in my own field of perception

2636
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:13,440
now to answer your question

2637
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:16,000
um it's a really good one and i actually

2638
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:18,480
had this conversation rather recently

2639
01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:20,800
with a japanese ufo researcher by the

2640
01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:24,480
name of norio hayakawa and he had stated

2641
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:27,040
based off of his research and from his

2642
01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:29,199
understanding of the last three or four

2643
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:32,080
decades rather long time he believes

2644
01:43:38,229 --> 01:43:35,520
that people are pre-selected people that

2645
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:38,239
have ufo sightings ufo encounters or

2646
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:39,760
things of that nature

2647
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:42,000
are pre-selected to go ahead and have

2648
01:43:47,669 --> 01:43:44,800
those experiences so for

2649
01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:47,679
these entities that go ahead and say

2650
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,760
telepathically look up into the sky or

2651
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:51,280
you're going to see this if you go there

2652
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:55,679
today it is incredibly possible i i do

2653
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:57,520
not doubt it i'm very open-minded to

2654
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:00,480
that possibility and for those that do

2655
01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:03,679
have telepathic powers such as yourself

2656
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:05,600
um it i i think it would simply make

2657
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:09,199
sense but again it would just depend on

2658
01:44:15,830 --> 01:44:12,719
people's field of perception and also if

2659
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:15,840
they're even open to that mentally to go

2660
01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:18,239
ahead and receive that message

2661
01:44:23,189 --> 01:44:20,960
telepathically as well well leilani we

2662
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:23,199
want to thank you for your call and um

2663
01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:24,639
hopefully you'll call back again next

2664
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:27,440
week thank you for your call

2665
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:29,199
i will definitely tune in thank you

2666
01:44:32,709 --> 01:44:31,040
thank you too

2667
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:32,719
all right it seems like martin willis is

2668
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:34,400
having an issue technical issue with his

2669
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:36,800
camera oh no

2670
01:44:41,270 --> 01:44:39,520
we're gonna get to the next call we have

2671
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:41,280
lee spiegel

2672
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:46,400
lee are you there

2673
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:50,480
i am here yes i am and you're wrong

2674
01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:56,790
so good to hear from you my friend

2675
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:58,880
well well it's so good to see you i'm so

2676
01:45:03,190 --> 01:45:01,040
happy that you're still broadcasting

2677
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:03,200
from so high above the earth behind you

2678
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:12,550
i i just want to say in my own opinion

2679
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:13,360
that

2680
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:15,440
you have the freshest

2681
01:45:18,709 --> 01:45:17,119
most welcome

2682
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,719
intelligent

2683
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,400
well-versed

2684
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:21,679
voice now

2685
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:23,840
in the ufo field especially in

2686
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:26,080
broadcasting and in wanting to get

2687
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:28,400
information out to people you've been

2688
01:45:31,830 --> 01:45:30,320
saying things that i didn't even know

2689
01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:31,840
about and hell i thought i knew

2690
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:37,030
it's so good to have you here and i

2691
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:37,920
think

2692
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:40,480
when you get old geezers like martin

2693
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:42,239
willis and me

2694
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:44,560
uh still doing what we do

2695
01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:47,520
after so long i feel

2696
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,320
if we had more people like you around

2697
01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:52,560
doing this kind of work um we're in

2698
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:54,719
really good hands with you that's that's

2699
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:56,880
what i wanted to say

2700
01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:59,199
thank you lee

2701
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:01,920
lee thank you make my heart warm

2702
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:03,679
can you actually hear me

2703
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:05,840
yes okay so

2704
01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:07,520
oh martin is is it still your show

2705
01:46:11,669 --> 01:46:09,440
martin no i thought i thought it was

2706
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:11,679
yours for a minute but uh

2707
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:13,280
and then i earlier i thought it was

2708
01:46:19,270 --> 01:46:16,480
ken's show for a while but uh

2709
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:19,280
but anyway my camera blew up and when i

2710
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:21,360
try to get my camera to work

2711
01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:23,199
the everything blows up so i'm back i

2712
01:46:27,590 --> 01:46:25,520
don't know thanks for filling in for me

2713
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:27,600
both uh bill and

2714
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,360
and lee we only have two minutes left

2715
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:31,360
can you believe that we do have one more

2716
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:33,600
caller lee thank you so much for calling

2717
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:36,080
in thank you

2718
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:38,080
uh so i don't have anything all that

2719
01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:39,040
gone

2720
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:41,440
uh bill so who is it that's in there you

2721
01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,880
have ken left if you want to go to ken

2722
01:46:46,790 --> 01:46:44,719
in massachusetts wait wait a minute this

2723
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:46,800
is a ken from massachusetts right yes

2724
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:48,639
okay yes all right yeah we have two

2725
01:46:57,669 --> 01:46:55,350
i can't hear it

2726
01:47:01,030 --> 01:46:57,679
yes it was nice to see someone young

2727
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:01,040
taking up the mantles and ufo

2728
01:47:04,950 --> 01:47:03,040
ufology i just had a quick question i

2729
01:47:07,270 --> 01:47:04,960
know you're limited for time

2730
01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:07,280
what's your personal opinion why the

2731
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:09,280
government kept it secret for so long

2732
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:11,440
because obviously they have because they

2733
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:13,920
admitted that they are real so i'll take

2734
01:47:16,870 --> 01:47:15,840
your answer after you

2735
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:16,880
thank you again

2736
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:19,520
there are um i'll let me bring the

2737
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:21,520
volume back down so there are a lot of

2738
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:24,400
theories um i i guess for

2739
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:26,880
mine um it would be kind of hard to say

2740
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:28,960
but i guess the biggest thing would be

2741
01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:30,400
it's

2742
01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:33,119
to have lied for so long right project

2743
01:47:37,510 --> 01:47:35,199
blue book beforehand and after and then

2744
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:37,520
all of a sudden saying oh just kidding

2745
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:39,199
ufos are here they've been here the

2746
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:42,400
whole time that makes them look really

2747
01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:44,800
bad i mean they already look like they

2748
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:47,119
look like really really bad so they

2749
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:48,960
would be constantly digging holes from

2750
01:47:52,629 --> 01:47:50,960
themselves with every let they say and

2751
01:47:55,270 --> 01:47:52,639
then saying that it's true and then

2752
01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:55,280
going back and you can only tell so many

2753
01:48:02,310 --> 01:47:58,719
lies before you trip up you mess up and

2754
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:02,320
then it shows the whole world sees that

2755
01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:04,400
you're actually lying so

2756
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:06,960
the fact that they've lied so long i

2757
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,800
guess because of their mentality and

2758
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:11,040
this is merely

2759
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:12,480
speculation

2760
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,119
that it's easier to constantly tell a

2761
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:17,679
lie then go ahead and tell a lie and

2762
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:19,520
then tell the truth and saying oh just

2763
01:48:22,950 --> 01:48:21,119
kidding actually this whole time we knew

2764
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:22,960
everything it does it just doesn't look

2765
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:26,000
good for them so that would be

2766
01:48:30,790 --> 01:48:28,800
what i would say for the time being i

2767
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:30,800
would need to do more research on that

2768
01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:33,119
so that answer might change in a few

2769
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:35,040
months it could change tomorrow to why i

2770
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:38,080
think that but at this point in time

2771
01:48:42,790 --> 01:48:41,360
that would be my best answer

2772
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:42,800
all right what i'm doing now christina

2773
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:44,560
is i'm putting your show in the links

2774
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:46,880
for the chat thank you so people can go

2775
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:48,320
right there right now because it's

2776
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:50,639
coming up right as soon as we end so

2777
01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:52,159
thank you so much it's been a real

2778
01:48:58,149 --> 01:48:54,159
pleasure a lot of fun i'm glad my camera

2779
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:58,159
unblew up so i'm back but anyway thank

2780
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,880
you so much it was a lot of fun and keep

2781
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:02,960
doing what you're doing we need you

2782
01:49:08,070 --> 01:49:04,880
we all know i'm not going anywhere all

2783
01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:08,080
right take care bye bye now all right

2784
01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:09,840
everyone as i mentioned earlier we have

2785
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:12,560
a rendition forced person coming on

2786
01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:15,440
next week his name is monroe neville's

2787
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:17,199
and he will be on

2788
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:19,119
the same time and then the day after

2789
01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:20,960
that we have a show on the everything

2790
01:49:24,629 --> 01:49:22,880
else show about the environment thanks

2791
01:49:29,540 --> 01:49:24,639
so much everyone for watching and

2792
01:49:38,860 --> 01:49:29,550
remember to keep your eyes to the skies